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Re: STEPHENS
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 23 October 07 15:14 BST (UK) » |
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The North Wales BMD has a Sarah Jane Stephens, Wrexham (included Bersham), 1870. Local ref is WM/035/88.
The GRO would give the quarter but the local one can be obtained from Wrexham:
http://www.northwalesbmd.org.uk/births.html
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GRO Ref:
Wrexham, March q, 1870, vol 11b, Page 340
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« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 23 October 07 15:32 BST (UK) » |
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Thanks Gadget ... I am going to try and find all the Stephens b St Agnes, Cornwall in Wales in 1871 ...I am sure they are related to Bry's Nicholas Stephens....
Hopefully Bry's 1881/91 Scottish census records will add up to the Cornish and Welsh ones... off to find out what happened to Sarah b 1860/1 St agnes
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Re: STEPHENS
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 23 October 07 15:47 BST (UK) » |
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Okay
I found a birth for BESSY Stephens (8 yrs in 1871, living in Wales)
Bessy Stephens
June q 1863, truro
Vol 5c pg 185
I cannot find a suitable birth for Sarah b 1861 ...she was 2 months in 1861 census...
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Re: STEPHENS
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 23 October 07 15:57 BST (UK) » |
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Yep Gadget
If they are the right family ...In 1861 in St Agnes Nicholas and Ann had 3 kids ... William, Mary Ann, and Sarah (2 months)
1871 In Wales ..they have William (right age), Mary Ann (off by 2 or 3 years), BESSY and another SARAH who is 1 ... have to find the death of Sarah (2 months in 1861)
Hope I am making sense 
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Re: STEPHENS
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 23 October 07 16:02 BST (UK) » |
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oops - it's Sarah not Bessy!
It might be that she died on the way to North Wales and that's a difficult one to find (probably impossible) if she did
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Re: STEPHENS
« Reply #36 on: Tuesday 23 October 07 16:06 BST (UK) » |
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Nicholas and Ann had to have made their way to Wales after 1863 when Bessy was born .... is there a death of a Sarah b c 1861 in Wales ?? The only death for a Sarah Stephens is March 1865 St Germans, Cornwall.
we need to find Sarah's death .... 
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Re: STEPHENS
« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 23 October 07 16:09 BST (UK) » |
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Sorry Deb - I modified my last post - she could have died anywhere on the way.
The Welsh BMDs are with the English ones. They could have gone by train (say via Bristol) or road or even canal
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Re: STEPHENS
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 23 October 07 16:12 BST (UK) » |
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there's the death of a Sarah Stephens, Ruabon, (Wrexham RD and close to Bersham) in 1869 showing on the North Wales BMDs.
It's a possible,
Local ref - Rbn/21/56
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Re: STEPHENS
« Reply #39 on: Tuesday 23 October 07 16:17 BST (UK) » |
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That looks like the likely one Gadget ...
Bry ...will have to confirm all of this with the 1881 and 1891 census details ... there was supposedly another child b c 1873 in Scotland ... hopefully bry's details of this family, have a child , Sarah J, b in Wales ...
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Re: STEPHENS
« Reply #40 on: Tuesday 23 October 07 16:26 BST (UK) » |
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The Stephens that I've got in Lasswade, Scotland on the 1881 don't tie in with any of the details here except son William:
691 Ed 9 Page 18 - Lasswade, Midlothian
William Stephens, hd, 24, coal miner, b. England
Jane, wife, 24, b. Lasswade
Nicholae, 2, b. Lasswade
Alexander L, 4 mths, b. Lasswade
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No deaths for Nicholas 1871-1881 in the North Wales BMDs
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Re: STEPHENS
« Reply #41 on: Tuesday 23 October 07 16:43 BST (UK) » |
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Gadget
Can you find Nicholas and Ann ... below
Hi Deb,
Yes I have Nicholas & Ann in 1891. They are staying with their married daughter in Lasswade, Midlothian. I cannot locate the family in 1871, the earliest I have them in Scotland is the birth of daughter Susan in 1873.
Ann is at the same address in 1881 (without Nicholas) as in 1891
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Re: STEPHENS
« Reply #42 on: Tuesday 23 October 07 16:54 BST (UK) » |
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They're living with Sarah Jane - their daughter, now married to a John Cochrane in 1891 - both aged 58
20 Ramsay Square, Lesswade 691 Ed 10 page 25
I'll have another look but I have to go soon.
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« Reply #43 on: Tuesday 23 October 07 17:00 BST (UK) » |
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Yes in 1881 they are living at 20 Ramsay Square - 691 Ed 9 Page 21
Ann 47, Sarah, 11 and a John Williams, boarder .
i don't see Nicholas either Wales or Scotland at the moment.
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Re: STEPHENS
« Reply #44 on: Tuesday 23 October 07 17:12 BST (UK) » |
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Thanks Gadget
Nicholas is supposedly in the USA ...not sure where though
I think the only way to confirm all of the children (except William and Mary Ann , who were with their parents in 1861, cornwall) is for Bry to order birth certs of Bessy (truro 1863) and Sarah J (1870 , Wales ).
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