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Topic: Completed Look up - Cast up by the Sea-Coroner's/Newspaper reports of death (Read 88 times)
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Firehorse
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Hello, I have just verified from a Death Certificate that my GGG-Grandfather, William Dobson, was found 'dead upon the sea shore' near Aldbrough. The burial record had stated that he was 'cast up by the sea' from where he lived and worked in Roos. This occurred January 15, 1852. He was a wheelwright/joiner by trade, so it is rather a mystery why he would have ended up in the sea. His wife, Frances (Walker) Dobson died a few months earlier the year before, therefore I'm not sure if it might have been suicide. Coincidentally, and rather tragically, his son, James Dobson, died in September of the same year as William. James had only been married two years at the time of his death.
From the Death Certificate, the Coroner was from Hedon and his name was Arthur Iveson and so that has made me wonder if there was an inquest on William's unsual death.
I was hoping that someone might be able to help with any information concerning the newspapers that would have possibly reported on this at the time in 1852 in that area of Roos and Aldbrough. I'm not too familiar with the area and have searched unsuccessfully the site 'Newsplan' to look for newspapers that might have been around for that time. Also, I've looked at the East Yorkshire Archives catalogue and there are inquest reports in archive, but they are from 1853 onwards and that is one year later than William's death! Would there be any other records available that would include 1852?
Any help with the above would be gratefully accepted, as I would really like to unravel the mystery behind my GGG-Grandfather's death and how he came to be found lying on the sea shore. 
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Jilly
Calgary, Canada
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Crisp, Dobson, Kirk, Farrow, Abraham, Hilton, Thompson, Croft, Searby, Haddock, Coot(e), Bryan Plaskett, Lyon, Peart, Hors(e)wood, Fanthorpe, Haywood, (Lincolnshire & Yorkshire) Brooke, Foice, Chapman, Flint, Bright (Surrey and Essex) Pitt, Banks, Young (Surrey, London & Ireland)
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avm228
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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How sad 
If the Coroner was the informant of William's death according to the death certificate, that means there was an inquest. The death certificate itself will summarise the coroner's findings (albeit briefly) - if nothing more is said than "found dead upon the seashore" then it is likely the coroner was unable to ascertain how and why he had come to be in the water. I do have one of somebody killed on a railway track where the coroner specifically entered "no evidence as to how he came to be on the track" - does your say anything like that?
Hope others with local knowledge can help you on inquest reports and/or local newspapers.
Anna
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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Firehorse
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Thank you very much, Anna, for your response to my message. You were right about what you wrote. There was no real knowledge as to how he died and the Death Certificate had only stated the cause of death being found dead on the sea shore. I wrote to the Hull library (Local Studies) and got a reply soon after I posted this message. They were able to look up a couple of newspapers of the time (The Hull Packet and East Riding Times of Friday 23 January 1852 and The Hull Advertiser of the same date and transcribed the details of a couple of articles on William's death. He apparently, visited the Spa Inn at Aldbrough and had some refreshments there, left to return home (assumably to Roos) along the beach, picking up jet and placing it in his pockets. He'd reportedly had silver , one sovereign and half in gold in his pocket, noted by the the landlady of the Spa Inn when he was there, but when his body was found face down on the beach, he only had the collected jet and the gold had mysteriously disappeared from his pocket. The verdict found by the jury and coroner was that he was simply 'found drowned', and the other newspaper article indicated that there were no signs of external injury to his body indicating the cause of death. It was surmised that the tide had come in and he was overcome by the water.
I'm not sure if the original inquest report still exists, but it would be interesting to see that too.
Thanks again, Anna, for your reply and help! 
Jill
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Crisp, Dobson, Kirk, Farrow, Abraham, Hilton, Thompson, Croft, Searby, Haddock, Coot(e), Bryan Plaskett, Lyon, Peart, Hors(e)wood, Fanthorpe, Haywood, (Lincolnshire & Yorkshire) Brooke, Foice, Chapman, Flint, Bright (Surrey and Essex) Pitt, Banks, Young (Surrey, London & Ireland)
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