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Topic: 1910 marriage Alsop/Cookson/Knot who was the gooseberry?COMPLETED THANKS (Read 1318 times)
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Kayzee
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Harry Alsop of St. Matthews Parade, Kingsthorpe 1901 was born 1868 in Glasgow. Looking for his marriage I found an entry on FreeBMD for Sept qtr 1910, but the page lists also a Charles G Cookson & May I Knott with no 2nd female to match the 2 males. There was also a Harry Alsop born in Northamptonshire in 1885. Can anyone tell me who the other possible bride should be on the page & which Harry is getting married in 1910?
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Kayzee
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Thank you Pauline, I shall try that - possibly a middle name brought down from previous generations might clinch the deal. Thanks.
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behindthefrogs
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You will probably have to be patient and wait for the rest of 1910 to be transcribed.
However if you can find a birth then the mother's surname will be included and you can now use the images on Ancestry to search for the marriage.
The simple solution of course is to order the certificate for the marriage.
David
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Living in Berkshire. From Northampton & Milton Keynes DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley. Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Kayzee
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Thanks David. This is a distant branch of my tree & in the top 100 list of certificates I shall buy when the money tree blossoms, it is fairly well down. However I have learned that patience pays off & often information comes along which supplies you with an answer when you are least expecting it! Many thanks for your time.
Kay
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carol8353
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Hi Kayzee,
Well it looks like Mr Cookson married Miss Knott!!!
KNOTT (  ) that it helps you find who Harry Alsop married....but.
There are two births in Northampton with the surname Cookson and a mothers maiden name of Knott. March 1917 and Sept 1920.
Suppose you could always check Alsop births from Sept 1911 in Nton to see what the mothers maiden names are and then see if any match up to the ref number of the 1910 marriage 
Carol
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukRogers, Rapkin, Phillips - Hammersmith/Fulham/Paddington areas Worth Bailey, Heapy, Burgess. All Macclesfield Cheshire Mockridge,West Monkton Somerset Jenner,Clapham Surrey Kendrick,Liverpool Wensley,Somerset Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland Blake and Maloney from Kilbaha Co Clare, Ireland |
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carol8353
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And here you go Kayzee, the missing wallflower is Louisa Dawson(there are loads of Alsop/Dawson babies in Nton from 1911 onwards) she also has the Sept 1910 marriage ref of 3b page 153.
Hope that helps.....and saves you £7 too
Carol
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukRogers, Rapkin, Phillips - Hammersmith/Fulham/Paddington areas Worth Bailey, Heapy, Burgess. All Macclesfield Cheshire Mockridge,West Monkton Somerset Jenner,Clapham Surrey Kendrick,Liverpool Wensley,Somerset Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland Blake and Maloney from Kilbaha Co Clare, Ireland |
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Kayzee
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Hi Janet,
That is certainly not a reply I expected! You don't happen to have a photo do you? Or a report from a newspaper? Harry's siblings seem all to have been quite 'well to do', but I don't know much at all about Harry other than than his ancestry & siblings. If there is anything you would like to know about that, please feel free to ask.
He is not my husband's direct line, but I like to follow them all up! His father, uncle & brother were part-time artists & although not hugely successful, their paintings are still to be found being sold at art auctions.
Do you know what Charles Cookson did for a living?
Look forward to chatting on a snowy day!
Kay
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Kayzee
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Hi Janet,
Thanks for your reply, I have to cook tea for my small army now, but will be back to you in a couple of hours.
Kay
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Kayzee
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Hi Janet,
The fact that Charles was in the shoe trader figures. Harry Alsop was a merchant (of what I'm not sure), but his brother Frederick Wm was a leather merchant in 1901. If you look on the London board for 'Lienard', you will find a very helpful reply I had concerning Fred Wm. Possibly Harry worked for/with Fred in Heineman, Alsop & Co. Does that name mean anything to you?
I would not rule out a wedding photo if it was a double wedding. Surely the Alsop/Dawson family could afford a photo? Are you in contact with anyone from the Dawson family? You might be surprised at what turns up in the future.
To me, the fact that Charles said his father was George Cookson groom, would seem to be a cover up for his illegitimacey rather than an indication that George Dawson was his father ( I think that is what you were wondering?) He wanted to have a father in the box & George was like a father & Cookson was his name & groom was an acceptable occupation. On the otherhand perhaps his real father was a groom & so knew George Dawson which is why George took Charles under his wing, but personally I think it was just a madeup father to look more respectable.
Are you still in the area?
All for now,
Kay
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Kayzee
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Hi Janet,
Sorry I have not been able to help you with any information on your grandfather, but I shall certainly let you know if I ever come across a photo of him in my Allsop research. Have you checked out the Northamptonshire record office? There may have been an obituary for Charles in 1951? Have you looked for a will of the Dawsons? Maybe they mentioned him?
All the best with your research & thanks for an interesting story,
Kay
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