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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 16 October 07 13:57 UTC (UK) »




   Hi Reiver.....

PELOPS STREET KIRKDALE


            Tazzie
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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 16 October 07 15:09 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Tazzie
I knew somebody would know  Smiley

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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 16 October 07 15:20 UTC (UK) »

Again - a street question - but in Birmingam
What appears in 1881 to be Muntry Street,  Aston.

It was the home of a 'cousin'  of William Harley.
His name was Euclid Butterworth and son of Richard Butterworth and Harriett. 

Can we agree - unti proved one way or another - that William Harley was indeed the illegitimate son of Fanny Maria?    Or not?  Smiley   

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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 16 October 07 15:50 UTC (UK) »




   Hi ......

Does it look like Muntz Street?

I found reference to Muntz Street as being the place where Birmingham City had their first ground in 1877 and says it is in the area of Small Heath.

                    Tazzie

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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 16 October 07 15:58 UTC (UK) »

Reiver,

While you are looking at Euclid Butterworth, just a detail to note - I found him in a 1887 Yorkshire directory as Master of Warley Bd School, Sowerby Bridge, home in Regent Sq.
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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 16 October 07 17:35 UTC (UK) »




I found this John Titterington in 1894 !

John Titterington  - Senior Boys' Master - Stanley Rd Kirkdale

liverpool-schools.co.uk/Teachers__1894.xls

KIRKDALE INDUSTRIAL & RAGGED SCHOOL FOR BOYS & GIRLS - Plus 2 Homes, 2 MAJOR STREET STANLEY ROAD, LIVERPOOL, LANCASHIRE.
This is the only one of the kind in England.  It is a refuge and reformatory for beggar and vagrant children and was founded in 1856 by the Rev. Cason Major Lester M.A (incumbent of St May's & St Lawrence's Kirkdale) who is the honorary general superintendent.

The School is available for 750 children in conjunction with this school which has no less than twenty-four certified homes, in which the most necessitous of the children are lodged, there is also a girls home in Walton Road., in which there is room in all the establishments for 860 children 1,500 meals are given each day and numbers are clothed at a cost in all upwards of £6,000 yearly.

This is interesting too !

http://www.emanuensis.btinternet.co.uk/lester.htm

EDIT ....... Here's the son Ambly was talking about !

1901
St Chad's College Denstone Staffordshire

John Bertram Titterington 12 Pupil Liverpool Lancashire

RG13 Piece 2632 Folio 128 Page 6.

http://www.search.staffspasttrack.org.uk/engine/theme/default.asp?theme=371&text=0
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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 16 October 07 17:37 UTC (UK) »

Thanks both of you.
Tazzie       I'll check it out
Shaun    Highly probable.  in 1891 he was a Cerificated Teacher  living in Lofthouse with Carlton in the West Riding.  His wife was a Cerificated Mistress.  they had a four yeard old son called Euclid.

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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 16 October 07 17:52 UTC (UK) »

Sorry for butting in but this is so uncanny reiver asked for Pellops Street Kirkdale and in front of me is a census for 1901 for this very street My husbands ancestors were neighbours at the time of the people he is looking for living in number 3 Pellops Street

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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 16 October 07 18:42 UTC (UK) »

Nice find Annie - it would be good if we could trace the Titterington line in the 20th century. What happened to John Bertram Titterington (b. Liverpool c. 1888) and Dorothy May Titterington ( b. Formby 1893) I wonder ?

Edna, I know that uncanny feeling - I was born and bred in the Waterloo/ Crosby/ Blundellsands area just a few miles north of Liverpool and a lot of the places we are encountering are very familiar to me.
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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 16 October 07 18:48 UTC (UK) »



There's a marriage for Dorothy May 1915 ! ( now I'm so paranoid ... can we post it ?? )

Annie  Roll Eyes
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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 16 October 07 19:05 UTC (UK) »

Annie - we do have to be careful as we move into "may still be living" territory. I would suggest ( moderators please chip in ) that we set a bar here - not to name on this public thread anyone born within the last 100 years. So on that basis I don't see a problem with publishing details of a marriage in 1915, but a marriage in 1925 (say) would be more problematic.

I suggest for leads on people born within the last 100 years that people post on this board a message that they've found them without giving names (or addresses), then PM  Annie and/or myself with the details and we'll put the data up on the secured website  (to which I will continue to give access to interested researchers on a passworded basis on request).
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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 16 October 07 19:25 UTC (UK) »

A couple more thank yous  Smiley

Tazzie            yes iti's Muntz Street in Aston
Clematised      In 1881 Euclid Butterworth  lived at Number 13 Pelops Street in Kirkdale.

Another street query please.    Clusy Street, Walton-on.the.Hill    Bootle    How does that sound?

And a quick summary of where I am up to.
I've been following forward William Harley Steads aunts and uncles (Brothers and sisters of Fanny).  I am up to 1891 on all the lines.  Once I'm up to 1901 I'll post what I've got or at least a summary and pass the detail to Shaun if that's OK?

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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 16 October 07 19:51 UTC (UK) »

Walton on the Hill was not Bootle but Liverpool and I know of no Bootle Street of this name and Old Maps did not come up with anything are you sure you have the spelling right.

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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 16 October 07 21:10 UTC (UK) »



OK ............ here's the skinny !! Grin

I asked Little Nell about posting and dates .... here's her reply !

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This is not a hard and fast ruling since I have not consulted with any of the other mods, but I'm OK with a marriage in 1915.  Heaven knows what metal or gemstone anniversary they' be celebrating now!      Marriage in 1925 is also probably OK, but the children of such a marriages are probably different.  I tend to think of when my parents were born (soon after 1925) and they are still alive.

So I'd suggest that it's OK for someone to say that they have found some children, but not give any details of names, years or places in public
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Annie  Smiley
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Re: Are You Sitting Comfortably Part 2
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 16 October 07 21:27 UTC (UK) »

hi all

Just to wack a cat amongst the pigeons so to speak........I recall someone asking a cemetry office somewhere - was it Thornton - re any burials of our Robert - dare i make him "ours" even on a temporary basis for 1926.

the reply came back that who ever had searched Jan - Dec 1926 without result

Could we go back to them and cheekily ask for whoever in authority to look at the first quarter of 1927 too.......reason being

A delay in buying a burial plot or even getting the finishing touches of a headstone.... if this modern world is anything to go by that could take over 2 months for a plot and over 10 months for a memorial.

Just a thought - going back into my box now!......turning over the stones that dont want to be turned

mair
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