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Jemima(h) RAWLIN(G)S Birth. Completed.
« on: Thursday 18 October 07 08:00 BST (UK) »

I am searching for the birth record of my Great grandmother. I have an IGI christening record for Jemima Eastwell Rawlins. 31 May 1846 Cople, Bedford, England. mother Emma Rawlins.
1851 Jemima 5yr old Grand daughter of James Rawlings, Cople
1861 Jemimah 15 yr old Gd of James Rawlins, Cople

In 1849 Emma married William Eastwell in Bedford.
In 1864 Jemimah married William Watts in Cople, she gave her fathers name as Charles Eastwell.

There is a birth entry 1845 Q2  Ludlow which could be Jemima (Transcribed Louisa) with Mary Rawlins. I can't find any census records in Shropshire for Louisa or Mary, can anyone help? I would appreciate any ideas.
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Re: Jemima/Jemimah Rawlins/Rawlings Birth.
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 18 October 07 16:58 BST (UK) »

The Ludlow one looks like Louisa to me! But as Jemima gives her birthplace as Cople, on logistical grounds I would discount Ludlow.

I can't see her in any of the indexes either

As registration wasn't compulsory until much later, many births around this time went unrecorded. This one may have been one of them

A2A has "Removal Orders: Chas. Eastwell, and family - Cople to Trinity parish in Cambridge." 1823

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Jemima/Jemimah Rawlins/Rawlings Birth.
« Reply #2 on: Friday 19 October 07 07:37 BST (UK) »

Hi David
Once again, thank you very much for you message. I just don't know how you manage to pick up and answer all the postings.
I will investigate the Charles Eastwell Removal Order. I have no idea if father Charles was real or fictitious.
A distant cousin is wondering how or why one of her Rawlins ancestors, Joseph, born c1809 moved from Cople to Norfolk prior to 1841, could it be possible that a removal order had something to do with that move. So many questions.
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Re: Jemima/Jemimah Rawlins/Rawlings Birth.
« Reply #3 on: Friday 19 October 07 09:01 BST (UK) »

Hi RBC

I think from her middle name at baptism that Jemima's father was an Eastwell. Whether it was the William that her mother married, or the Charles on her marriage cert, is debatable. I favour Charles if only because it would have been simpler to have put down William who was her mother's husband! And of course because she was brought up by her grandparents - if she was William's child surely she would have stayed with her parents after their marriage.

In 1841 a Charles Eastwell (Eastill, but transcribed as Eartill) 15 was living in Cople with, presumably, his parents Edward 45 and Mary 50. In 1851 he was a lodger aged 28 born Cople living in Huntingdon. I can't see William in 1841 though - do you have the marriage cert to get his father's name?

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Jemima/Jemimah Rawlins/Rawlings Birth.
« Reply #4 on: Friday 19 October 07 10:12 BST (UK) »




   Hi all....

  The IGI  has a baptism of Charles Eastwell to Edward & Ann in Cople in 1821 on 25 December.
  Edward Eastwell married Ann Warren April 23 1821
Ann must have died as he remarrries to Mary Bassett in 1828.

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Re: Jemima/Jemimah Rawlins/Rawlings Birth.
« Reply #5 on: Friday 19 October 07 10:36 BST (UK) »




    There is a Rawlings birth recorded that I cannot seem to follow up on...

   LINEA RAWLINGS  b 1844 q1 Bedford.

  I have looked at the hand written GRO entry and that is how it is spelt. But obiviously that name is open to transcription errors so she doesn't show up after that on a simple search.

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Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
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Re: Jemima(h) RAWLIN(G)S Birth.
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 20 October 07 07:03 BST (UK) »

Hi Tazzi
Thank you for your message. I can't find any other record for Linea so far, she could be a possibility. I will keep her in mind at the moment.
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Re: Jemima(h) RAWLIN(G)S Birth.
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 20 October 07 07:51 BST (UK) »

Hi David
In 1861 William Eastwell, Emma and children were living in Battersea, William and Emma were born in Cople so I think I have the right family.
In 1861 a 37yr old Charles Eastwell, Alice and family were also living in Battersea. That seemed quite strange. I don't know if it is the 1851 Charles.
I am going over old ground so have had to check the records I found at the time. I thought Charles and William were possibly brothers but hadn't been able to link them. I hadn't seen Charles IGI record (father Edward) and couldn't find a Baptism for William, he doesn't come up as a child of Edward and Ann. Perhaps it's back to Church records.
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Re: Jemima(h) RAWLIN(G)S Birth.
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 20 October 07 08:19 BST (UK) »

I have just remembered that the Records Office did search for bastardy records, none were found. They did find that a William Eastwell was a prisoner twice in 1843!! I don't know if he was Emma's husband.
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« Reply #9 on: Saturday 20 October 07 09:56 BST (UK) »

The only baptism on the IGI of children of Edward and Ann is Charles. Ann aged 24 was buried on 17 June 1826 at Cople.

Edward then appears to have remarried to Mary, but I can't see any baptisms of children to this couple and in 1841 only Charles was living with them.

As both William and Charles gave their ages as 37 in 1861 I don't think they were brothers, cousins possibly. But where is William in 1841?!! Now he's beginning to bug me.

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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Jemima(h) RAWLIN(G)S Birth.
« Reply #10 on: Monday 22 October 07 07:56 BST (UK) »

Further to PM. I now have more questions than answers.

I can't understand why Jemima's birth was not registered. A Naomi Rawlins, who I think was her aunt, was registered in 1838. There is a Female Rawlins registered in St Neots in Jun 1846, could Emma have been in Huntington when Jemima was born and not Cople. A Charles was there in 1851.

I am sorry I didn't answer David's question of the 19th Oct. I have the marriage cert for William and Emma 1849. William's father was given as Edward, I am now beginning to doubt that.
A William Eastwell was in Prison in 1843, committed 04.03.1843, 18yrs old It refers to a previous conviction but no ref no so could be an error. Could he have been detained somewhere in 1841?

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