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hyssop
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Hi to everyone, I am new to this so I hope you will forgive me if I appear ignorant.
Could someone please tell me what a traveling hawker is and if they lived in a van what sort of van would it be, in 1898 and also what was a tin man.
I would be so grateful if you could help
thank you
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behindthefrogs
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Welcome to rootschat.
A tinman was someone who worked with tin. Also called a tinsmith or a white smith.
A hawker in the country was an itinerant dealer who carried his wares on his back. It was another name for a pedlar.
In the town he was a street seller who cried his wares.
David
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Living in Berkshire. From Northampton & Milton Keynes DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley. Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Pels.
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Hi hyssop,
Like David I would also like to wish you a very warm welcome to RootsChat! 
According to this link .. ..
http://www.amlwchhistory.co.uk/data/occupations.htm
A Tinman could either be a tinsmith or a tinker.
Kindest regards,
Pels
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hyssop
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Thank you so much David and Pels. Today I had a copy of my great grandparents marriage certificate. My gr and gr gr grandfather were traveling hawkers and my other gr gr grandfather was a tinman.
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chafox
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My ancestors were hawkers, and had carts I presume, as they travelled around the country for three or four generations selling pottery at fairs, such as the Crock Fair at Hearsall Common Coventry, in Monmouth and Tewkesbury perhaps, all around.
If you ever watched Tony Robinson's worst jobs, ( if I remember it correctly ) there was one when he explored the original job of hawker, which seemed to involve walking around with hawks on a board, which he had to carry .. so the definition changes over the years .
Don't think that hawkers were only foot pedlars by any means.
My hawking family got to be very wealthy, and had a warehouse full of carts to go out with from, in their village. Their children perhaps had their own trade routes.
It could get to be a big thing if you had a big family to make a go of it.
Terry
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Whitehouse -Pelsall: Norton canes
Kirby - Hillmorton, Warks; Ashby Leics
Lloyd - London, Surrey
White - Frowlesworth; Narborough, Leics
Deeming - Walsgrave, Corley Warks; Hoxton,London
Bray - Sapcote, Leics
Bentley,Whitehouse - the potteries
Paxton Adkins - Claydon and Cropredy, Oxon
Cooper - Coventry, Hoxton London
Opperman - Limehouse, Hannover
Duffey - Bristol, BVrighton, Marylebone
Davis - Landkey, Ilfracombe, Devon
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jean Sandra
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My Challenor ancestors were also hawkers of pottery with a large extended family. They started out in Staffordshire (not surprisingly for potsellers / hawkers). In the nineteenth century they covered a large area of Staffordshire, Cheshire, Lancashire and Derbyshire.
Does anyone know how I can find out more about how they sold their pots? I don't know if they sold at Markets or went door to door selling. I don't know where their pots would come from or how they would carry such heavy items.
There is a rumour of Romany origins but nothing proven.
Regards
Jean Sandra
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Lancashire:
Holland, Rothwell, Speake, Mills, Byrne, Healey, Cowburn, Thorpe,
Wolstencroft, Boulton, Holt
Cheshire:
Daniel, Eccles, Challenor,Holt, Swift, Boulton, Thorniley, Sharman, Wilson, Hindley,
Dawson
Derbyshire:
Sharman, Cocker, Coates, Swift, Thorniley
Cornwall
Stephens, Bate, Cock
Leicestershire
Dawson
Worcestershire
Mills, Slater, Dukes
Berkshire
Slater
Ireland
Byrne
Staffordshire
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jean Sandra
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Unfortunately the Mills members of my family were not potters. They were weavers in Rochdale and Kidderminster.
Possibly my hawker family members worked with a horse and cart like yours, its hard to imagine how else they would carry pots.
They seemed to be found in places close to towns with a market. Maybe that's where they sold some of their pots. They were a family selling pots from at least 1800 to 1909.
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Lancashire:
Holland, Rothwell, Speake, Mills, Byrne, Healey, Cowburn, Thorpe,
Wolstencroft, Boulton, Holt
Cheshire:
Daniel, Eccles, Challenor,Holt, Swift, Boulton, Thorniley, Sharman, Wilson, Hindley,
Dawson
Derbyshire:
Sharman, Cocker, Coates, Swift, Thorniley
Cornwall
Stephens, Bate, Cock
Leicestershire
Dawson
Worcestershire
Mills, Slater, Dukes
Berkshire
Slater
Ireland
Byrne
Staffordshire
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chafox
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My feeling is that my ancestral travelling hawkers had an annual round of fairs and markets that they served with their wares.
That would explain the births and marriages from all around the country.
My ancestors Joseph and Ellen (nee Bentley) Kirby married in Toddington Bedfordshire, and had their first son in Monmouth, one year later. (c 1850)
They had certain favourite towns. Sutton Coldfield comes up again and again, but so does a certain inn on the road between Ledbury and Cheltenham in another branch of the family. I am sure they were travelling between market towns.
They had to have carts and horses (if it was too early for caravans) and travel long distances.
Terry
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Whitehouse -Pelsall: Norton canes
Kirby - Hillmorton, Warks; Ashby Leics
Lloyd - London, Surrey
White - Frowlesworth; Narborough, Leics
Deeming - Walsgrave, Corley Warks; Hoxton,London
Bray - Sapcote, Leics
Bentley,Whitehouse - the potteries
Paxton Adkins - Claydon and Cropredy, Oxon
Cooper - Coventry, Hoxton London
Opperman - Limehouse, Hannover
Duffey - Bristol, BVrighton, Marylebone
Davis - Landkey, Ilfracombe, Devon
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Pels.
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Hi Steve,
You must be very proud .. it's a beauty .. !! 
To be perfectly frank I know nothing about such things, is it very old .. if so approximately what year would it have been made ??
I'm assuming you maintain it yourself ??
Pels.
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Pels.
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Oh wow .. you are so lucky, just look at Rosie, I can see why she's the love of your life .. !!
What a wonderful to travel, thankyou very much for showing us your pictures .. !!
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