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Re: Help Needed Please.
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 21 October 07 12:39 BST (UK) »

have i misunderstood ....  Huh  we know definitely know that  the surname is BOAG....sorry i thought you were asking what we could read the surname as  Roll Eyes


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« Reply #16 on: Sunday 21 October 07 13:06 BST (UK) »

Hi Debz,

Junket says on her first posting that the marriage cert  gives her maiden name as Boag which she posted a picture of, she was asking if it could read something else  Wink
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Re: Help Needed Please.
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 21 October 07 21:56 BST (UK) »

Thanks to all.

I have ordered the Birth certificate, for my g grandmother.

I questioned the Boag spelling as, I cannot find Boag in St Enoder or the rest of Cornwall, in the 1850s, I was hoping someone might find some or say thay the surname was something else, ( as, I could find Bray and Bony, in the St Ewe area ).

My grandparents, took me to Lower Sticker, to show me the house, where William and Mary lived, but never mentioned her coming from Newcastle not Cornwall.  I have emailed, my great uncle, to ask if he remembers his grandmother's surname, unfortunately he doesn't and he is the last living grandchild of William and Mary.

Thank you so much for all your help, I do appreciate it.

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« Reply #18 on: Sunday 21 October 07 22:53 BST (UK) »

Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Whats really puzzling is that there is no birth record of her anywhere.

It is always possible that her birth was never registered, it was not mandatory until the 1870,s.

You best bet would be if you could find someone who has access to the parish records for that area, you might find her that way.

Good luck  Wink
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Re: Help Needed Please.
« Reply #19 on: Monday 22 October 07 08:47 BST (UK) »

Hi. Patrish.

thank you for your help.  I always find all responses helpful.  It is always good, to have another person's ideas / views on a subject.

I have another relative, who did not have her birth registered, in 1852.  I have contacted the Registry Office for the area.  they were very helpful and confirmed for me, that she was not registered in their area or the surrounding areas.  They also gave me a contact for another area, who also confirmed that there was no registration, in that area.

I will continue searching, whilst waiting for g gran's birth cert.

thanks again everyone.

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« Reply #20 on: Monday 22 October 07 11:12 BST (UK) »

If its any consolation one of my own gt. grandmothers was not registered when she born around 1850, I have searched all the parish records for the area but drawn a blank.  Sad
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« Reply #21 on: Monday 22 October 07 14:15 BST (UK) »

this will not be helpful i'm sure but i'm just posting coz i have the time... Grin and to show that they are Boags listed in Cornwall.

If Carrie BOAG was born in 1872 in Feock Cornwall then there had to be Boags in Cornwall at somestage . Smiley

1871  Rg10 2281 Page 30
there is a Richard Boag 59 yrs  H            butcher  born Truro Cornwall
                mary Boag      57 yrs W                         born  Truro
                Elizabeth Wilce 28 yrs  M      Dau           born turo

               William  Wilce     5 years  grandson         born Truro
No. 11 trennick row
St clement Truro

St enoder is 17 miles from Feock and St. Enoder
Truro is 12 miles from St Enoder.

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« Reply #22 on: Monday 22 October 07 14:20 BST (UK) »

At least Mary married and had children, so there is a trail.

My Lydia, born 1852, did not marry lived at home with her parents and died a single woman.  Despite being noted as the mother of some of the children in the household, on some of the census records.  birth certs., corrected these records.

I am searching and finding on this family.  But no Boag as yet....Have found Bagg in the area....lol.

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« Reply #23 on: Monday 22 October 07 14:27 BST (UK) »

Thanks Debz.

I will take a look at this family and see what I can find.
It is a good possibility, Mary the younger is old enough to leave home. 

Back to the search.

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« Reply #24 on: Monday 22 October 07 14:39 BST (UK) »

Hiya Junket

Are you sure it isn't Boaz?

Though saying that this doesnt help because there doesnt seem to be any in Cornwall

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« Reply #25 on: Monday 22 October 07 14:47 BST (UK) »

Saying that there are quite a few Boase and Bose

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« Reply #26 on: Monday 22 October 07 15:10 BST (UK) »

OK bit of a desperate measure but....

There are only 8 Marys living in St Enoder in 1861 b 1853 - 1855 that were born there they are

Mary Bassett b 1853 parents George & Phillipa
Mary Emma Benny b 1855 parents John & Emma
Mary Elvins b 1854 parents James H & Frances
Mary Jane Roberts b 1856 parents Charles & Jane
Mary Salmon b 1853 parents Samuel & Mary
Mary Stephens b 1854 parents John & Ann
Mary T Vincent b 1854 parents Robert & Fanny
Mary Williams b 1853 parents William & Catherine
Mary Elizabeth Williams b 1854 parents William & Jane

and one other living in St Columb Major

Mary Williams b 1852 parent Elizabeth grandparents James & Elizabeth Smith

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Re: Help Needed Please.
« Reply #27 on: Monday 22 October 07 15:33 BST (UK) »

I have just searched the COCP, for St Clements, Truro, 1871, and found...

11 Trennick Row,1,Richard Bray,Head,M,59,,Butcher,Truro Cornwall,,


In BMD, an Elizabeth Bray, married an Elijah Wilce, in Truro in 1868.

A William K Wilce, was born in Truro, in 1870.

COCP, have g'son of Richard Bray aged 5m, William K Wilce.

Is it Anc., who have it as Boag in 1871 ?

Freecen didn't pick it up as Boag, either.

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« Reply #28 on: Monday 22 October 07 15:38 BST (UK) »

i did wonder about the bray /boag , i should have cross referenced...oh well you live and learn ...
i will get cleverer  Grin i hope !

I should know better with Ancestry... there are loads of mistakes ... may be all the BOAGs started out as BRAYs  Wink

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« Reply #29 on: Monday 22 October 07 15:59 BST (UK) »

Debz, I am so grateful for your help.

But this does take me back to my initial enquiry, could Boag be BRAY ?

To me the g is a y...there is no loop at the end of the stalk...........but that, is how I see it.
When one looks at the whole cert., the person, that wrote it has rather a lot of flourishes on some of the letters.

the 5 in 1885 has a very long one..Lower Sticker is joined together, by the r of lower, to the S of sticker...

goodness knows what the rector's name was. 

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