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Mc Vicar
« on: Saturday 20 October 07 18:25 BST (UK) »

hello l was told about this site and how help people are. My grandmother born around  1914 Portree Isle of Skye Margaret Mc Vicar she had a sister Jean whom married a Campbell  my grandmother married a Gilfillan so l am try to trace my grandmothers side of the family can any one help please regards Dave
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« Reply #1 on: Saturday 20 October 07 18:52 BST (UK) »

Hi Dave

First of all, welcome to Rootschat  Smiley

As your grandmother was born after the cut off point (1906) for online records, you would probably only be able to get her birth registration from Edinburg which you could get from here if you are away from the Capital:

http://www.gro-scotland.gov.uk/famrec/bdm.html

Otherwise, you might be lucky and someone here may have access to the baptism registers for that time  Smiley

In the mean time it might be possible to trace her parents, do you have any idea of their names, etc. Anything that would help.

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« Reply #2 on: Monday 22 October 07 11:42 BST (UK) »

Hi thanks for replying back to my questions unfurtuly thats all l basicly know of them because grandmother and my mother died young with illness and my mums father put kids into care and remarried so not a lot to go on any case thanks once again regards Dave
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Re: Mc Vicar
« Reply #3 on: Monday 22 October 07 11:56 BST (UK) »

 Cheesy

All is not lost!  I've just found your grandmother's death entry. She died 21 May 1947

Margaret Morton Gilfillan, m. to William Gilfillan, plater. She was aged 32. Died at 10 or 6 Victoria Drive, Renfrew. Her parents were Lachlan McVicar (foreman platelayer) and Agnes, nee Derrick.

Both parents were alive so there might be a lot to go on  Smiley

I'll have a good nose around !

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« Reply #4 on: Monday 22 October 07 12:02 BST (UK) »

Lachlan and Agnes married July 10th 1914, Greenock.

He was a merchant seaman then, aged 26. His parents were - Dugald McVcar, railway porter and Jessie, nee Bain

Agnes Derrick was a dressmaker, aged 26. Her parents were- Peter Derrick, ship rigger (dec) and Margaret, nee Morton (dec)

Still not sure where Portree comes in but  Undecided

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Re: Mc Vicar
« Reply #5 on: Monday 22 October 07 12:09 BST (UK) »

Here's the Skye link

1891

Fisherfield, Portree  114/1 Ed 6 Page 9

Dugald MacVicar, 33, salmon fisher, b. Portree
Jessie, 27, b. Gairloch Rossshire  Smiley
Lachlan, 3, b. Portree
Mary, 1, b. Portree

I'm assuming that Dugald and Jessie married circa 1888

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« Reply #6 on: Monday 22 October 07 12:15 BST (UK) »

More goodies  Cheesy

1891

76 Wellington Street, Greenock 564/2 ED 22 Page 38

Peter Derrick, 30, seaman AB (merchant), b. France
Margaret J, 28, b. ireland
Mary A, 6, b. Greenock
Agnes, 4, b. Greenock
John, 11 months, b. Greenock
Elizabeth Morton, 65, mother in law, b. ireland

I'll let you ponder on this before I do anymore. Too much info all at once can be a bit daunting!

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Re: Mc Vicar
« Reply #7 on: Monday 22 October 07 13:30 BST (UK) »

Hi Dave

From your PM, I assume that you've taken it all in now  Cheesy

Dugald MacVicar and Jessie Bain married 29 Sept 1885, Portree.

Dugald was 27, a fisherman. His parents were Donald MacVicar, fisherman and Mary nee Beaton

Jessie was 22. her parents were James Bain, fisherman and Jessie nee Stewart

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Re: Mc Vicar
« Reply #8 on: Monday 22 October 07 14:15 BST (UK) »

fantastic gadget,

1881 census- 22 market street, greenock

peter...age 23...seaman...born france
mary j...age 18...born ireland


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Re: Mc Vicar
« Reply #9 on: Monday 22 October 07 14:38 BST (UK) »

I've been trying to find the death of Elizabeth Morton, Joe. It would give a lead to the Irish line - husband and parents, I was hoping but so far not a dickie bird  Sad

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« Reply #10 on: Monday 22 October 07 14:49 BST (UK) »

However, I have found the death of her daughter, Margaret Derrick  Smiley

8 May 1911, Greenock Infirmary, 52, widow of Peter Derrick, ships rigger.

Parents -  James Morton, police constable, deceased and Eliza nee McAuley (dec)

So over to Ireland for those two. I'm no good at Ireland, Joe - how's your searching there  Smiley

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Re: Mc Vicar
« Reply #11 on: Monday 22 October 07 15:15 BST (UK) »

Death 13 July 1900

Peter Derrick (looks like Yacht master) and there's a corrected entry next to it! married to Margaret Morton

aged 42 at Greenock Infirmary. Parents - John Derrick, sawyer, dec. and Mary, nee Brace, dec.

Looks like he had a nasty accident - compound fracture of leg, fractured arm, internal injuries obscure and shock 1 day
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Re: Mc Vicar
« Reply #12 on: Monday 05 November 07 15:45 GMT (UK) »

WOW Gadget you are amazing! The information you found for David's McVicars gives me hope  Smiley
I am looking for the parents of John McVicar born 1834, I was told Isle of Skye; Angus McVicar and An McAly(don't know if this is a correct spelling or not-recently found MacAulay that sounded similar).
With McVicars having such large families I thought there had to be more children for Angus and Ann, but I have not found any family information for John or his parents.
Also, I notice a lot of Hugh McVicar's is that a "nickname" for any paticular name?
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Re: Mc Vicar
« Reply #13 on: Monday 05 November 07 15:53 GMT (UK) »

Hi Nannette  Smiley

Maybe it would be better to start another thread for your McVicar's so that they don't get mixed up with Dave's

Hugh was just a name. The Gaelic for it was  Hùisdean.

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Re: Mc Vicar
« Reply #14 on: Monday 05 November 07 17:05 GMT (UK) »

But look out as well for Ewen/Ewan, which was often the intermediate form between Huisdean/Uisdean and full Anglicisation as Hugh. Ewen/Ewan was by far the most common form in the islands from 1800 through 1850.
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