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Abiam
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Infant mortality in Little Gransden 1853/1862
« on: Monday 22 October 07 10:21 UTC (UK) »

Hi everyone,

I have found a family of 'mine' John Smith and Susan Elwood both born in Little Gransden who married in 1852 (his first marriage) and produced six children before 1862 of whom four died before the age of one year.

I wonder if anyone knows whether there was a particular illness ie. whooping cough, measles.... sweeping through the county or was it just that they were an impoverished family.

The mother Susan died in 1864 aged thirty.

Any opinions would be welcome,
Thank you,
Abiam
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Re: Infant mortality in Little Gransden 1853/1862
« Reply #1 on: Monday 22 October 07 11:25 UTC (UK) »

If they died over a period of years, as your post suggests, then it doesn't sound like an epidemic sweeping the county. More likely your alternative suggestion, general malnutrition so they succumbed to anything going round. I have ancestors from neighbouring Gt Gransden who had loads of children in the 1850s and none of them died young.

Didn't we just exchange messages about this family on that other board?

Regards

David
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
Abiam
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Re: Infant mortality in Little Gransden 1853/1862
« Reply #2 on: Monday 22 October 07 12:18 UTC (UK) »

Yes David we did.  I just wondered if anyone on here had any views!  It does sound like general poor quality of life and as you say it is over quite a long period. 
Thanks for your repy,
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DOBSON,Berks, Wilts.DOPSON, Fyfield, Wilts
SMITH, WEBB, Little Gransden, Gamlingay, Cambs
WEBB, Hatley St George, Hunts
HUNT, Wanborough, Swindon, Wilts
TUBB, Hungerford, Berks, EGERTON, Highworth, Wilts
WISE, South Australia, WISE, Fawley, Berks
WISE, Bray, Binfield, Berks
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Re: Infant mortality in Little Gransden 1853/1862
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 29 April 08 05:55 UTC (UK) »

Hi David,

Am I right in thinking you have access to the Parish Registers for the Gransden villages?

I am looking to find out the maiden name of Jane Smith wife of Samuel Smith (born Jul 1794 Little Gransden).  I believe you found her death for me which was 1835 in Little Gransden.  They were my Great, Great Grandparents and had four sons.

Any help or suggestions to find Jane and Samuel and their ancestors would be much appreciated,

Regards,
Abiam
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DOBSON,Berks, Wilts.DOPSON, Fyfield, Wilts
SMITH, WEBB, Little Gransden, Gamlingay, Cambs
WEBB, Hatley St George, Hunts
HUNT, Wanborough, Swindon, Wilts
TUBB, Hungerford, Berks, EGERTON, Highworth, Wilts
WISE, South Australia, WISE, Fawley, Berks
WISE, Bray, Binfield, Berks
WYSE, Wise, Maidenhead, Berks
VINCE, VINCENT, St Mary Bourne, Hants, Bucks, Berks
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Re: Infant mortality in Little Gransden 1853/1862
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 29 April 08 08:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi Abiam

Afraid not, just the bits that are on the BVRI, NBI or Hunts Marriage Index, or on the FFHS pay per view site. And unfortunately Lt Gransden marriages for that period are not on any of my CDroms. You need someone with the transcript.

Looking again at your Susan Elwood who married John Smith in 1852- was she a daughter of Samuel and Mary (Childerley) Elwood? If so I have her in my database although I have no relationship with her, but her mother remarried to John Medlock, to whom I am very distantly connected.

Regards

David
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Infant mortality in Little Gransden 1853/1862
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 29 April 08 09:19 UTC (UK) »

Hi David,

Thanks for your reply.

As Susan Ellwood was the first wife of John Smith I didn't follow her through because my relative was from his second wife.

I have just this morning found a tree on the webb for a possible link to Jane ? Smith.  Jane Hullier - if and it's a big if she married the right Samuel Smith.  I have sent a hopeful email.

http://www.geocities.com/pictorialwashingtonuk/CambridgeshireGenealogy.html

I have added it here in case it might be of any use to you, probably not but you never know!

Regards,
Abiam
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DOBSON,Berks, Wilts.DOPSON, Fyfield, Wilts
SMITH, WEBB, Little Gransden, Gamlingay, Cambs
WEBB, Hatley St George, Hunts
HUNT, Wanborough, Swindon, Wilts
TUBB, Hungerford, Berks, EGERTON, Highworth, Wilts
WISE, South Australia, WISE, Fawley, Berks
WISE, Bray, Binfield, Berks
WYSE, Wise, Maidenhead, Berks
VINCE, VINCENT, St Mary Bourne, Hants, Bucks, Berks
TUCKWELL ANYWHERE!
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Re: Infant mortality in Little Gransden 1853/1862
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 29 April 08 09:28 UTC (UK) »

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Re: Infant mortality in Little Gransden 1853/1862
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 29 April 08 12:10 UTC (UK) »

Your last post - a mistake?
Aniam
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DOBSON,Berks, Wilts.DOPSON, Fyfield, Wilts
SMITH, WEBB, Little Gransden, Gamlingay, Cambs
WEBB, Hatley St George, Hunts
HUNT, Wanborough, Swindon, Wilts
TUBB, Hungerford, Berks, EGERTON, Highworth, Wilts
WISE, South Australia, WISE, Fawley, Berks
WISE, Bray, Binfield, Berks
WYSE, Wise, Maidenhead, Berks
VINCE, VINCENT, St Mary Bourne, Hants, Bucks, Berks
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Re: Infant mortality in Little Gransden 1853/1862
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 29 April 08 12:57 UTC (UK) »

no, a bookmarking / savings one i have a thing to look up on at home - i am at work  Grin
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Spinal Muscular Atrophy -SMA is a neuromuscular condition causing weakness of the muscles.
SMA is the biggest genetic killer of children under the age of 2 yrs
1 in 40 of you carry the gene that passes this conditon on
There is no current treatment
http://www.jtsma.org.uk/
http://www.petitiontocuresma.com/


NOTHING IS AS IT SEEMS

Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear- Monkleigh
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Re: Infant mortality in Little Gransden 1853/1862
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 16:19 UTC (UK) »

okay not sure if it really helps you but

a great flu epidemic spread around the world 1857-1859
small pox was also around
and yellow fever over in America
then you have things like measles, diptheria and cholera to contend with

but i would really go with what David said
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Spinal Muscular Atrophy -SMA is a neuromuscular condition causing weakness of the muscles.
SMA is the biggest genetic killer of children under the age of 2 yrs
1 in 40 of you carry the gene that passes this conditon on
There is no current treatment
http://www.jtsma.org.uk/
http://www.petitiontocuresma.com/


NOTHING IS AS IT SEEMS

Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear- Monkleigh
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Re: Infant mortality in Little Gransden 1853/1862
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 18:53 UTC (UK) »

It's always useful to have extra information, thank you.  I had also decided on poor living conditions as the major factor,
Regards,
Abiam
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DOBSON,Berks, Wilts.DOPSON, Fyfield, Wilts
SMITH, WEBB, Little Gransden, Gamlingay, Cambs
WEBB, Hatley St George, Hunts
HUNT, Wanborough, Swindon, Wilts
TUBB, Hungerford, Berks, EGERTON, Highworth, Wilts
WISE, South Australia, WISE, Fawley, Berks
WISE, Bray, Binfield, Berks
WYSE, Wise, Maidenhead, Berks
VINCE, VINCENT, St Mary Bourne, Hants, Bucks, Berks
TUCKWELL ANYWHERE!
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