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suttontrust
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More ancestors - is it worth it?
« on: Sunday 26 December 04 21:28 UTC (UK) »

I'm researching a friend's family history and find it as absorbing as doing my own.  However, on one line we've got back to the early 18th century in Wiltshire, and I'm wondering whether to pay researchers to try to get another generation or two back, or to stop there.  After all, it's just adding names and dates without any knowledge of who they were as people.  Do others want to get back as far as possible or at some point call it quits?
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« Reply #1 on: Sunday 26 December 04 21:47 UTC (UK) »

I think you may find the history of these people more interesting. It depends what you are 'after' in this hobby (ney! obsession!)  Wink

I like to ' fill out ' the bones on these individuals. Finding out about the difficulties they faced, the conditions they lived in the places they frequented the social community they surrounded themselves by, the things they found important at that time.

Names and dates are great & look good on paper but the stuff that fills in all the details in between I find much more rewarding, even if I am stuck on a particular generation It does not matter (even if it is enfuriating!)
I get great satisfaction from knowing them better in some sort of strange way!   Wink

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« Reply #2 on: Sunday 26 December 04 21:57 UTC (UK) »

I agree - and that's why I wonder whether it's better to focus on those ancestors whose lives one can fill out.  19th century social history is a particular field of study for me, and one can use census data and other sources to bring people alive.  Once you get back to pre-enclosures rural life there's very little filling in you can do.  Nonetheless it is, as you say, an obsession and I suspect I will go on adding ancestors wherever I can.
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Re: More ancestors - is it worth it?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 26 December 04 22:12 UTC (UK) »

Certainly! if one can find another ancestor adding them on the tree is a bonus!

You also seem to be of the same frame of mind as me The social side of things give greater insight into the history of these people and they then become more than just a name and a date.

I also agree the further back you go the less fulfilling the details will be, that aspect is an unfortunate one but if someone has the 'need' for detail in their family history they will go to great lengths to see if there is anything more documented on their long gone ancestors.

My Taylor line in particular is very well documented but the further back the line has gone the less interested I am as I only have the odd reference to a name (which could be a Christian or Surname) the only good thing which lifted my spirits is that the line is an illegitimate one and all the children took the name of the mother  Wink

My mother is so glad she was born a Taylor and not a Husofut!  Grin

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« Reply #4 on: Sunday 26 December 04 23:17 UTC (UK) »


My mother is so glad she was born a Taylor and not a Husofut!  Grin


Slightly off topic, but I loved this statement. Being of a generation who always took their husband's name on marriage, I hate it when I am referred to as Ms  rather than Mrs - I like it to be known that the name I use is not the one I was born with!

Back on topic, I doubt I would ever pay a researcher if the only thing I felt they could find would be the names of ancestors - if there was a likelihood of additional information, I would probably consider it.  I also find much of the enjoyment is in doing one's own research, so have only used researchers to check specific issues where it is impossible for me to access the required records (but I have found out that such records exist).

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Re: More ancestors - is it worth it?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 27 December 04 17:03 UTC (UK) »

There is a wealth of information out there about our early ancestors.  I have copies of early wills (The reign of Charles II)  They make wonderful reading.

Personally I got as far back as I could and then looked for information about their lives.  My next project is to find out which side my ancestors are likely to have supported in the Civil war. 

I did not pay anyone but looked at the films of the records in the LDS family history centre.  Not as good as looking at the originals but next best thing.  I did pay for the wills look up but that was before the net.

It's just a problem knowing which line to follow first.

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 28 December 04 11:33 UTC (UK) »

I'd not consider paying a researcher if there was the slightest chance of my being able to find the information for myself. I'd also recommend not being too hung up on 'knowing' the individuals. With the late 18th century, most of us are going to be looking at anything between the 6th and 9th generation before us and (before even contemplaiting siblings) this gives us over 1000 ancestors (in the 9th generation). That is a lot of people to get to know. It may well be that you find out something really seminal from an even earlier generation and if you had taken a dogmatic stance on not going back any further until you were satisfied you knew the people, that could well be missed. It may be ages before you can get to Wiltshire to do some research - I have got enough trips 'planned' to last me 10 years, but I hope to work my way gradually down the list. Happy hunting
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 28 December 04 11:56 UTC (UK) »

I think the good thing about research in the earlier 1800s and beyond is that it "forces" you to explore other avenues  ie. settlement records, parish poor records (those that received relief and those that paid taxes), freemen rolls, apprenticeships, wills etc..

One branch of our family were really quite poor throughout the 1800s yet when we get back to the early 1700s they were property owners, left wills and one direct ancestor a HM Customs Officer so you never know ............ we were certainly surprised!

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Re: More ancestors - is it worth it?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 28 December 04 13:18 UTC (UK) »

hi suttontrust,

hope you had a merry xmas and hope you have a good new year as well.

now I originally was looking for my hubby's grandmother's family as his father didn't know much about them, as she hardly talked about them.

since starting, I have found out that she was one of 19 children, and 2 of her sisters died at a very early age. I have found 9 of them so I am still looking and their name is a common one, making it even harder.

I looked at this as a challenge for me and I have found relatives dating back to the late 1600's but haven't been able to go any further. I live in australia and am on a pension so looking for records is a bit harder for me and have to rely on the good of others to do the leg work for me.

you never know if you research back far enough you might find that you are related to royalty Cheesy Cheesy , then again you could be related to Jack the ripper. Grin Grin Grin Grin

well that's my opinion for what it's worth.

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« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 28 December 04 13:52 UTC (UK) »

I've been doing a bit of both, it is fascinating filling in the details of the closer relatives and finding out what jobs they did, such as the chicken fattener and my great grandfather who was postmaster at Lingfield Post Office.  A lot of this information came from some love letters we found at my grandparents house that my gran had written in the 30s to my grandad before they married - fascinating finding out about my gran before I knew her, when she was young.  She sounded similar to me. 

I have also found several strands of my tree going back to 14th, 15th and 16th centuries.  All of these lines stay in Sussex and have, for me, answered why I have never wanted to leave Sussex.  It will always remain home, I am well and truly Sussex born and bred (go on fill in the rest of the words!) and now I know exactly why!  Mystery solved.   Smiley

That for me was priceless.

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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 28 December 04 14:18 UTC (UK) »

Hi.

Yes, like Kerry I have found that I originate wholly from this part of the World and I now see why I have always come home.

I never stop looking for information and just because it is the C18th doesn't mean there is nothing to find.  One branch named their sons Owner & Miles, why, because there were two politicians in Great Yarmouth called Miles Corbett and Edward Owner at the end of the C17th, no need to ask what side my lot were supporting!!!

If you have to pay for research then your hands are tied but if you are doing it yourself why not try to get back where you can but if not, embellish you family history with information, even if it is not directly linked to your family.  The weather on their wedding day, the social news on the day they were born, what were the wages for their job at the time?  Cottage conditions etc etc etc  I could go on!!!

I LOVE social history and my family history just sits nicely beside that interest.  Why did they move to wherever in 1840, could it be due to lack of work on the land?  Look into it and often family migration makes perfect sense.

I'll shut up now!!

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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 28 December 04 14:27 UTC (UK) »

hi there again,

just another thought about this, I wouldn't like to pay for someone to do the work for me as, on this site other people have paid out lots of money for someone to research and have found that the information being returned is false and misleading and probably having nothing to do with the family or name concerned.

I like to have the satisfaction of doing the research and finding the information for myself, if at all humanly possible.

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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 28 December 04 15:48 UTC (UK) »

I have to agree, I wouldn't pay anybody else to do the work for me, as half the joy has been the investigating, finding the answer myself and having the excitement of giving my family the next instalment.  All of my family come from Sussex, Surrey and Kent except for two strands (my paternal Grandfather's family who come from East London and Lincolnshire).  My dad wants to know did they always live in the East End, or did they come from elsewhere because of the IR?  So that is my latest task.

Great fun and why get someone else to do the fun at expense!!

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« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 28 December 04 19:41 UTC (UK) »

I think this question of whether to pay a researcher has been aired before, but frankly there is no alternative if you live nowhere near the area of your research and you need the sort of records which are only available locally.  I have paid ROs, for instance, for records I couldn't get any other way, and been happy to do so.  After all Record Offices are paid for by local taxation, and whereas I can visit my local ones for free, it's only fair that I should contribute to others which are doing searches on my behalf.  Similarly, I don't mind paying somebody to access records I can't get at myself.  It's what you do with the information that counts.
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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 28 December 04 20:16 UTC (UK) »

I like to go as far back as I can.  Most of the time you will only discover names but once in awhile someone will pop up who did something interesting or had a roll in history which suddenly brings them more to life.  As an example, I located a man who has done extensive research on one family of mine and he found that one of our ancesters was Princess Jane Plantagenet the dau. of Eleanor of Aquitaine and another was one of the people hung as a witch in Salem,Ma. in 1692.  Knowing this I can read some history books and see what life was really like for them.  Because you never know Who you will find I will continue to go back as far as I can.  Leagen
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