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Lost street in Dundee
« on: Friday 26 October 07 04:00 BST (UK) »
Hello all, I'm looking for William Paterson who evidently lived at 3 Elizabeth Pl in Dundee in 1871. Mapquest can't produce Elizabeth Pl, so I guess it's gone. Can anyone tell me where it used to be?

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Re: Lost street in Dundee
« Reply #1 on: Friday 26 October 07 14:41 BST (UK) »
Sorry I don't have time to look for you, but this map may have the answer:

http://www.dundeecity.gov.uk/centlib/maps/map6.jpg
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Re: Lost street in Dundee
« Reply #2 on: Friday 26 October 07 14:43 BST (UK) »
Oops, forgot to give you the version you can zoom in on and pan around:

http://www.dundeecity.gov.uk/centlib/maps/map6/main.htm
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Re: Lost street in Dundee
« Reply #3 on: Friday 26 October 07 14:46 BST (UK) »
And if you can't find it, the folks here may be able to help you:

http://www.dundeecity.gov.uk/centlib/loc_stud.htm
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Re: Lost street in Dundee
« Reply #4 on: Friday 26 October 07 16:31 BST (UK) »
William John Tadden, one of the Spanish Civil War volunteers died at 38 Elizabeth Street, Dundee in 1937.  Wherever it was, it was probably swept away after WWII.
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Re: Lost street in Dundee
« Reply #5 on: Friday 26 October 07 16:53 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Isles on Friday 26 October 07 16:31 BST (UK)
William John Tadden, one of the Spanish Civil War volunteers died at 38 Elizabeth Street, Dundee in 1937.  Wherever it was, it was probably swept away after WWII.

Hi Isles.

http://www.finder.co.uk/search.aspx?q=House&city=38+Elizabeth+Street+Dundee&x=22&y=4

May be this can help

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Re: Lost street in Dundee
« Reply #6 on: Friday 26 October 07 16:57 BST (UK) »
Another slightly different old map:

http://www.dundeecity.gov.uk/centlib/maps/map8/main.htm

Much clearer to read when you zoom in.


Also, if you got the census details from Scotlands People, look at the free header page, it may give you some more clues as to the area the street was located in.
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Re: Lost street in Dundee
« Reply #7 on: Friday 26 October 07 17:43 BST (UK) »
Quote from: scotmum on Friday 26 October 07 16:57 BST (UK)
Another slightly different old map:

http://www.dundeecity.gov.uk/centlib/maps/map8/main.htm

Much clearer to read when you zoom in.


Also, if you got the census details from Scotlands People, look at the free header page, it may give you some more clues as to the area the street was located in.
Hi China,
Using the above map which Scotmum gave, if you zoom in and scroll to the right you'll come to a district called Maxwelltown.  Elizabeth Street is bisected by Commerce Street and it leads to George Street to the west and Anne Street to the east.  Good luck.
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Re: Lost street in Dundee
« Reply #8 on: Friday 26 October 07 18:46 BST (UK) »
Okay, after much effort I have finally located Elizabeth Street! So...would Elizabeth Place be off Elizabeth Street?

Some of these maps are excellent, much better than what I had been trying to use (Oldmaps). And the library site looks really useful, many thanks!

But Raphael, I have to report that finder.co.uk is really confused...the Elizabeth St in "Dundee" that it gave you is actually in Tayport, on the other side of the river Cheesy

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Re: Lost street in Dundee
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 27 October 07 07:16 BST (UK) »
How about that...I just did a google search for "Elizabeth Pl" + Dundee (instead of Elizabeth Place) ...and got my own post at the start of this thread Tongue

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Re: Lost street in Dundee
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 08 December 07 02:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi China,

Noticed you were online.

Re Old Dundee check this website, at the very bottom there is an e-mail address to contact them, they will give you all the information you need!!

http://www.dundeecity.gov.uk/centlib/maps/main.htm

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Re: Lost street in Dundee
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 08 December 07 05:09 GMT (UK) »
Thanks very much, Betty, I'll give it a try. It's an impressive website that I'll be exploring more when I have a bit of time.

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Re: Lost street in Dundee
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 12 December 07 02:36 GMT (UK) »
Hello again China,

Another two e-mail addresses that you could contact about your Elizabeth Place in Dundee. I think the Local History would be the best bet though.

For local history materials
Community Information Team
Central Library, The Wellgate
Dundee DD1 1DB
Tel: 01382 431525
Fax: 01382 431562
Email: bygone@dundeecity.gov.uk

 Local History Centre
Central Library, The Wellgate
Dundee DD1 1DB
Tel: 01382 431550
Fax: 01382 431504
Email: local.history@dundeecity.gov.uk

As far as I can make out Elizabeth Place was in the Hilltown area of Dundee, Maxwelltown was multi story house built on this area.

Betty

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Re: Lost street in Dundee
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 12 December 07 14:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi China
Just to add I knew the area well as a child and that the top half of Elizabeth Street, between George Street and Commerce Street (later named Alexander Street) was where Maxwelltown Jute Mill was.  The residential part was the other half which ran between Commerce Street and Ann Street.  The whole area has been sadly swept away and is now covered by the 4 ' Maxwelltown ' multi
story blocks  Cry

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Re: Lost street in Dundee
« Reply #14 on: Monday 17 December 07 10:00 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Isles on Friday 26 October 07 16:31 BST (UK)
William John Tadden, one of the Spanish Civil War volunteers died at 38 Elizabeth Street, Dundee in 1937.  Wherever it was, it was probably swept away after WWII.

According to the post code directory, Eliza Street exists in Dundee. However I would want more evidence before concluding that Eliza Street is the same as either Elizabeth Street or Elizabeth Place.
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