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Robert Zimmerman
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Hi All
l am trying to locate my great grandmother.
Her name is Mary McCreadie and by her marriage cert was born around 1883 (l presume Scotland)
Her father was a James McCreadie and her mother was Annie with an unreadable surname possibly starting with the letter F
Hoping someone can help
Zimmerman
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Zimmerman
Have you got your Mary on any census ~ probably not given that you are unsure of her birth place.
The closest I can see in Scotland in the 1891 Census:
James McKiddee 30, shoemaker, b. Kirland, Fifeshire
Jane Ann McKiddee 28, CO-Angus, Perthshire
Mary McKiddee 8, CO-Angus, Perthshire
John McKiddee 4, CO-Angus, Perthshire
Alexr McKiddee 2, b. Alyth, Perthshire
Adam McKiddee 5 Weeks, b. Alyth, Perthshire
Address: Airlie St, Alyth, Perthshire
Do you have an occupation for her father? If you could post the section with mother's maiden name, maybe people could help decipher.
Regards.
Monica 
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Possibly this
1880 MCKEDDIE JAMES PETRIE JANE ANN COUPAR ANGUS /PERTH 279/00 0007
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Hi ZImmerman, Monica and all,
Mary McCreadie born 11 Sep 1833 Old Luce, Wigtownshire
Parents James McCreadie and Ann Davidson. (submitted record IGI)
Not sure about this, Zimmerman, can you check for typo on date 1833 or 1883. I could not find Mary McCreadie on 1891 or 1901 cennsus
Did a parent search on IGI, 5 children were returned including Mary 11 Sep 1833, but the only extracted record was Hugh McCreadie on 14 AUG 1839 Old Luce, Wigtown, Scotland.
S, check dates please and post any other info from MC, of course if it is before 1855 there will not be much more info.
Tom
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Scotland - Buchanan, Thomson, Paterson, Stewart, Ritchie, Tracey
Ireland - Tracey, Conroy, Paterson.
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Robert Zimmerman
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Tom/Sancti
Definitely not born 1833.
James McCreadie 1880 marriage a possibility.
Known facts.
Married25/3/1908 in Perth western aust to a Fakir Shah.
Fathers name James and occupation was bricklayer.
Her age was 25 so that would make her birth 1883
Noticed one other thing just now from the certificate her mother was Anne or Annie surname something like Farrell but not sure as very hard to read but it looks like it starts with a F and ends with a double 'LL'. But what l noticed was that her mother was 'deceased'
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I hope the following Death and Burial data regarding your Fakir SHAH is useful. I located it at http://www.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/search.php
Summary Of Record Information
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First Names Last Name Application Number
FAKIR SHAH KB00069517
Aged (Years) Date of Death Suburb
69 13/07/1942 LEEDERVILLE
Grave Location
KARRAKATTA MUSLIM AA 0074
Cemetery Area or Denomination Section Gravesite
Grant Number Grant Status Expiry
K0036330 EXPIRED 20/08/1992
Q98
Fremantle
Western Australia
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Hamilton, Kennedy, Lovell, McCreadie, Murray - Ayrshire, Scotland
Lovell - Texas, USA
McCreadie - Dunedin, NZ
Boyle - Eire
McCreadie, Wills, Wyatt - Queensland
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Hi Robert & all,
Using the link Q(8 gave, there is a Mary Shah and a n infant Mary Ann Shah,
Mary Shah Application number KB00037535
Age – 40 Date of Death 11/08.1928 Suburb – Leederville
Grave Location – Karrakatta – Muslim Section AA Gravesite 0037
Mary Ann Shah Application Number KB00006492
Age - <1 Date of Death – 18/03/1907 Suburb – West Perth
Grave Location - Karrakatta – Muslim Section AA Gravesite 0013
These looked lunked to your Mary.
Tom
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Scotland - Buchanan, Thomson, Paterson, Stewart, Ritchie, Tracey
Ireland - Tracey, Conroy, Paterson.
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Robert Zimmerman
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The Mary Shah dying in 1928 is mine.
The Mary Shay dying in 1907 is her daughter.
The Fakir Shah dying in 1940 was Marys Husband.
All these l already have but thank you all anyway.
My problem/ brickwall is that l cannot find her birth or parents and such.
The only clues from the certificates is from Marys wedding certificate.
The following information l have got from the certificate
Name MARY MCCREADIE
Husband FAKIR SHAH
Date 25/03/1908 Perth Australia
Age 25 spinster
profession Housekeeper
fathers name james McCreadie
fathers occupation bricklayer
mothers name Annie F****LL (possibly Farrell)
Her signature reads M M Creadie so another possible spelling could even be Creadie.
This is the only info l have got her death info gives nothing.
On the IGI l have found McCreadies and McCreddys in Ayr and Wigtown but whethers shes from there  ?
still hoping someone can help
Zimmerman
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Hi Zimmerman,
It seems to be a pretty impossible task when you don't even know where Mary was born - could have been anywhere in the UK, or in Australia, or elsewhere ...
I guess you've tried shipping records for her arrival (if she wasn't born in WA).
Have you searched for her birth in WA? Or the deaths in WA of appropriate James and Annie MCCREADIEs (however spelled).
I thought I had come across a vaguely likely looking couple in the 1881 census on FamilySearch:
In Hulme, Lancashire
James MCCREADIE Head Age 30 Born N..., Scotland, Painter
Annie MCCREADIE Wife Age 31 Born Lanark, Scotland
James MCCREADIE Son Age 5 Manchester, Lancashire, England, Scholar
But I couldn't get any further with them ...
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Scotland - HALL, HARLEY, LOCHTY/LOCHTIE/LOUGHTIE/LOUGHTY (very rare), MCLAUSE/MCLAWS/MCILHOSE/HOSE (quite rare and many very variable spellings - close to 100 to date), PHILP/PHILIP, VASSIE; Ireland - BOURKE/BURKE, DONOHUE (many spellings), DOOLEY, KINSELLA, MAXWELL, OSBORNE, RAFFERTY, STA(U)NTON, SULLIVAN; England - BAYES, BROWNELL, DALTON, FREEMAN, HACKING, PIERCY, SIDDLE, SWIFT, SULLIVAN, TINK(L)ER, TRIPPIT. Any spellings and many other names!
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Robert Zimmerman
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Hi Jap
The WA Cert does not give her place of birth and no she wasn't born in WA.
Her parents did not die in WA, nor Vic, or NSW, or SA. The records are not open in QLD and TAS as yet. And no l haven't been able to find her shipping arrival yet.
My father seems to think she was born either in Scotland or Ireland.
Zimmerman
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JAP
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Hi again Zimmerman,
If you ever find out anything further, do let us know 
Very best of luck - I fear you need it!
JAP
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Scotland - HALL, HARLEY, LOCHTY/LOCHTIE/LOUGHTIE/LOUGHTY (very rare), MCLAUSE/MCLAWS/MCILHOSE/HOSE (quite rare and many very variable spellings - close to 100 to date), PHILP/PHILIP, VASSIE; Ireland - BOURKE/BURKE, DONOHUE (many spellings), DOOLEY, KINSELLA, MAXWELL, OSBORNE, RAFFERTY, STA(U)NTON, SULLIVAN; England - BAYES, BROWNELL, DALTON, FREEMAN, HACKING, PIERCY, SIDDLE, SWIFT, SULLIVAN, TINK(L)ER, TRIPPIT. Any spellings and many other names!
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Robert Zimmerman
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Hi Guys
I have found the marriage of James McCreadie & Anna Farrell in 1874, Orange, NSW, Aust.
I don't know how l missed it ...but l did.
I have ordered the Wedd cert and expect to get it the next fortnight. I still haven't located Annas death. Nor James death.
We'll see what the cert provides...you may hear from me again in a fortnight.
cheers
Zimmerman
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Hi Zimmerman,
That's great! Let's hope the marriage certificate gives heaps of information.
No doubt you noticed the birth of Eva MCCREADIE, parents James & Annie, in 1876 in Orange.
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Scotland - HALL, HARLEY, LOCHTY/LOCHTIE/LOUGHTIE/LOUGHTY (very rare), MCLAUSE/MCLAWS/MCILHOSE/HOSE (quite rare and many very variable spellings - close to 100 to date), PHILP/PHILIP, VASSIE; Ireland - BOURKE/BURKE, DONOHUE (many spellings), DOOLEY, KINSELLA, MAXWELL, OSBORNE, RAFFERTY, STA(U)NTON, SULLIVAN; England - BAYES, BROWNELL, DALTON, FREEMAN, HACKING, PIERCY, SIDDLE, SWIFT, SULLIVAN, TINK(L)ER, TRIPPIT. Any spellings and many other names!
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Robert Zimmerman
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Hi All
The wedding cert was useless no info other than thir ages and place of residence.
The only bit of info was that they were married at Edward McCreadies residence...father or uncle maybe. One of the witnesses was a Bridget Farrell possibly sister, or in-law or cousin??
I have since worked out Annies birth... 1842 in NSW her parents Edward and Mary.
But again l can't find their marriage or deaths
And l still haven't found the birth or death of James McCreadi.
Hoping for help or advice,
Zimmerman
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