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Topic: Pre 1837 look up request. (Read 368 times)
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Plymouth_Ian
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi Stewart R,
Couldn't find a record for the marriage, but found the following in the East Stonehouse Parish Record (on CD):
Baptism
William Perry Wolfendale 27/12/1818
James Perry Wolfendale 06/08/1820
John Perry Wolfendale 14/03/1822
John Thomas Perry Wolfendale 20/06/1824
Thomas Perry Wolfendale 15/01/1826
All listed with Father as James Wolfendale "Serjeant" in the Royal Marines. Mother transcribed as Kezia, Zekia, Zakiah & Tezia.
I wouldn't expect a "bookie" to give you very long odds that the mothers Maiden name was Perry 
Hope this helps,
Ian
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i could nay see any burials on familyhistoryonline, sorry, and searching just under the name of Wolfendale and Devon on the same site just gives me this 1881 census:~
RG11 2195 138 51 - 8 Wyndham St W Plymouth St Andrew Devon England
Mary A, Mary A & Minnie
(shout if you need the full details)
no Wolfendale marriages on Phillimores either (devon only searched )
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Plymouth_Ian
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Hi Stewart,
I've looked at Plymouth (Charles & St Andrew), St Budeaux, Stoke Damerel & Pennycross records without success.
I have found a James Wolfendale buried in East Stonehouse on 13/09/1835 aged 48, notes say he was from Devonport (So much for my previous statement  ).
I went to a Devon Family History Society day in June which painted a truly horrific picture of Plymouth around this time period, especially the East Stonehouse and Barbican areas.
It was one of the most crowded and therefore unhealthy places in Great Britain.
Best Regards,
Ian
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deb usa
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Hi everyone
Hope you don't mind me butting in 
I thought I would try and find Minnie Wolfendale's father.
In 1881 Minnie is with her mother Mary A Wolfendale (b c 1825) in Stonehouse.I have traced them back...
In 1841... Kezia Wolfendale (50) is in Stonehouse with William, 25 and John 14.
In 1851:
Fore street, stonehouse
Mary A Wolfendale is head, mar 25 (mother of Minnie in 1881 census)
Mary dau 2
Elizabeth dau 10... this is strange as she should have been emunerated first because of age ... also Mary A, mum, would have been 15 when she was born .... )
West Street, Stonehouse
Kezia Wolfendale wid 52 b NSW, Sydney
William son 30 unm
In 1861:
Thomas Wolfendale is a patient, 32 UNM, Gunners mate RN in the Royal Naval Hospital, Stonehouse
Also in 1861
Mary A Wolfindell (sic), head MAR seamans wife
Mary A dau 12
1871
east Stonehouse, 45 Fore Street
Mary A Woffendale (sic) head WID, 46 Nurse
Mary A dau unm 22 tailoress
william Rial/Riel boarder in charge3
Edgar Rial/Riel "
so at this stage we have Minnie's mother already married in the 1851 and 1861 censuses.
Thomas Wolfendale is still unmarried in 1861 ...so he's not the dad.
William Wolfendale , unmarried,is with his mother, Kezia in 1851 ... not the dad
There is this marriage:
Dec q 1848, Stoke Damerel
John Thomas Perry Wolfendale
on same page ....
Mary Ann Bean
Mary Ann Collings
vol 9 pg 553
Minnie was b c 1872 ... Mary A Wolfendale (55) in 1881 says that Minnie (9) is her daughter .... but if she was a widow by 1871 .... then who is the dad ...I tend to think that Minnie is the daughter of mary A b c 1849/50 ...Hope I am making sense here
I will look for more
deb 
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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deb usa
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Hi again
There is an online document on National archives for Thomas Wolfendale of Stonehouse.
Document:
ADM 139/13/1243
Admiralty RN continous Service Engagement books
Thomas Wolfendale
DOB 29 dec 1825
Year volunteered 1853
Comments: served in RN since 1839
deb
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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Stewart R
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Deb
Thankyou very much for your interest in my query. I already have many of the details you have shown but there are a few snippets of information that are of additional interest to me. I have often puzzled over the marital status of Thomas (the patient) in the 1861 census but have reasons to believe that the return could be inaccurate here, as was the case with many census returns, especially around this period. I have a copy of Minnie’s marriage certificates to my Great Grandfather, Isaac dated 1893 and 1899 (yes the are two, but that’s another story) and on both, her father is shown as Thomas Wolfendale, Sailor RN.
Your interest and information is very much appreciated, Thankyou
Regards
Stewart
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Reid, Wolfendale, Hawkin, Tapp
Plymouth, Macclesfield, Liverpool.
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deb usa
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Hi Stewart
Glad to be of help ... albeit not a lot
If you ordered the online admiralty document of Thomas Wolfendale (who is hopefully Minnie's dad) it may give you more details ...ie next of kin etc ....it may also give his status as to marriage etc ....
I also wonder about Minnie's birth Date, 1872 , and her mother already being a widow in 1871 .
deb
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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deb usa
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Hi again
yep ... a little bit of a mystery ...
My first though when I saw the 1881 census was that Minnie (9) was Mary A jnr's (30) child and not Mary Ann snr(55). 
Have you followed them through to 1901? What happened to Mary A snr's other daughter , Elizabeth?
deb
added>>>>. are the Boarders that are with them in1871 ...from your Reid family perhaps ?
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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. There is so much information about this event as you can imagine and I feel I’ve only just scratched the surface but I feel it is you I have to thank for pointing me in this direction.