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Re: Pre 1837 look up request.
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 20:15 GMT (UK) »

HI Stewart,

I'm really pleased that you appear to have made a significant amount of progress with the "Wolfendales".

One word of warning though, as you probably know Plymouth was devastated in the Blitz and very little of "old" Plymouth remains.

Stonehouse is the site of a Royal Marines Barracks and is next to the civilian dock for Plymouth, Millbay or Great Western Dock so was a prime target for the Germans.

I have looked on the Devon Family History Society website to see if they have any records of burials for Wolfendales.

1 listed "Most Parishes 1813-1837" is probably James (1835).  There is another listed for "Ford Park Cemetery 1848-1867".

If you are still planning to come down, I would get in touch with them to find out who is buried there, they will be able to give you an exact location in the cemetery.

You can "Google"  Ford Park Cemetery, they have their own website.

Hope you can keep the momentum going!

Regards,

Ian
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Re: Pre 1837 look up request.
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 21:11 GMT (UK) »


Hi again

There is this marriage:
Dec q 1848, Stoke Damerel
John Thomas Perry Wolfendale
on same page ....
Mary Ann Bean
Mary Ann Collings
vol 9 pg 553


I spotted this on IGI ...it is a submitted record

Christening
Mary Ann Wolfendale
4 Dec 1848
East Stonehouse
Parents;
John Thomas Perry Wolfendale
Mary Ann Collings

hope this helps a little

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Re: Pre 1837 look up request.
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 23:27 GMT (UK) »


My first though when I saw the 1881 census was that Minnie (9) was Mary A jnr's (30) child and not Mary Ann snr(55). 

I must admit this rather dubious scenario did cross my mind and I'd often wondered why there was such a long childless gap between the two sisters. I think an application for a birth certificate is on the cards here.  Undecided

With regard to 1901, I've not seen the census return with Mary & Mary but to be honest I've rather neglected them. I do Know that Mary jnr died in 1905 and My great grandmother Minnie had by then married my Great Grandfather and were living in Edinburgh at that time. She sadly died very young in 1903. As for the other sister Elizabeth, I lost track of her after the 1851 census and have thus far not attempted to trace her.

As for the boarders you mentioned in 1871 I don't recognize them as family but are we looking at potential fathers here Lips Sealed Curiously in the grave of Minnie, her mother and sister also lies a man by the name of Edgar clinch "Ridd", a man who's identity is a mystery 

I thought this family tree stuff was meant to be a hobby, I think I should have taken up fishing instead Grin Grin

Your continued interest is appreciated

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Re: Pre 1837 look up request.
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 31 October 07 00:21 GMT (UK) »

Hi Stewart

I think that if we try and follow the two sisters ...Elizabeth and Mary A we might find something . What bothers me is that in 1851 Mary A , 2years old , is transcribed before Elizabeth  who is 10 ... usually the eldest is transcribed first ...so is Elizabeth 10 or 10 months? .... if she is in fact 10, who does she belong to ... Undecided   Did Mary A snr marry abt 1840 to one of the Wolfendale brothers or is Elizabeth  a child from a previous marriage .

Mary A snr was 25 in 1851 .....  Undecided Lips Sealed so she would have been 15 when Elizabeth was born...I tend to think that Elizabeth was 10 months in 1851...but then again who knows   Roll Eyes Lips Sealed Undecided

In 1851:
Fore street, stonehouse
Mary A Wolfendale is head, mar 25  (mother of Minnie in 1881 census)
Mary dau 2
Elizabeth dau 10... this is strange as she should have been emunerated first because of age ... also Mary A, mum, would have been 15 when she was born .... Undecided)



I hope I am making sense ... and not confusing the issue

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Re: Pre 1837 look up request.
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 31 October 07 09:14 GMT (UK) »

i can't see a birth for Elizabeth Wolfendale 1849-1850 all qtrs , fullBMD  Huh

so perhaps she was 10 years  Undecided
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Re: Pre 1837 look up request.
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 31 October 07 09:23 GMT (UK) »

i couldnt check Qtr 1, 3  or 4 1841 for some reason but i checked all other qtrs 1839-1840 & qtr 2 1841 i couldnt see Elizabeth on those either.  Undecided
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Re: Pre 1837 look up request.
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 09 December 07 15:39 GMT (UK) »

Just an update to those that gave me so much help regarding this particular thread and particularly who Minnie's father was. Having sent of for her birth certificate it appears that she was born out of wedlock to a man called Ernest Martin, a spirit merchants clerk. As for Minnie's mother I've posted another thread to try and sort that one out but it seems she may have been the daughter of her sister???
Huh Huh

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