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Maria Mason
« on: Sunday 28 October 07 08:46 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

I have a marriage certificate showing Maria Mason,married to a John Boyland,a soldier in the 77th Middlesex regiment of foot? married at Royal Marine barracks Eastney Portsmouth,(Catholic Chapel) his father is given as George Boyland also a soldier.date of marriage Jan.1849 both were of full age.
from other researchers,I am told that parents of Maria were John and Maria Mason(nee Sillence)Maria was christened 7th October 1832 in Romsey Hants.Having trouble finding details of parents of both bride and groom.
Any help or advice appreciated.

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Re: Maria Mason
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 28 October 07 08:52 GMT (UK) »

Hi Langtry,

1841
HO107/401/15 5 4
Romsey Infra
Middlebridge?

John Mason, 30, Leather Dresser
Maria, 25
Maria, 8
Thomas, 6
Fanny, 4

All born in county.

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Re: Maria Mason
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 28 October 07 08:58 GMT (UK) »

1851 (Maria is in service in Middlesex)
HO107/1671 182 46
Middlebridge Street

Maria Mason, head, mar, 39, Felmonger's wife
Thomas, son, 15, Shoemakers App
John, son, 9, scholar
James, son, 6, scholar
Sherry, dau, 4

All born Romsey

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Re: Maria Mason
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 28 October 07 11:38 GMT (UK) »

Hi Tati,

Thank you very much for your help,much appreciated,still some way to go,but will get there in the end,thanks again,


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Re: Maria Mason
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 28 October 07 12:26 GMT (UK) »

Hi langtry,

Not sure if you have these details:

John and Maria appear to have had one other child baptised in Romsey, Thomas on 15 Feb 1835.

John and Maria were married on 14th February 1832 in Romsey.

There is a baptism for a Maria Sillence in Romsey with the parents Benjamin and Elizabeth Sillence.  She was born 9 February and baptised 8 March 1812.  They had a number of daughters born and baptised in Romsey before this.

Any idea where John Mason was born - there is a baptism for one in Romsey in 1803, parents William and Elizabeth.

Nell



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Re: Maria Mason
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 28 October 07 12:38 GMT (UK) »

1861
RG9/685 151 23
Romsey Infra
Delve Place

Benjamin Sillence, head, wid, 84, Paper Maker
Maria Mason, dau, wid, 48, employed on a Paper Mill
Thomas Mason, grandson, 25, Boot & Shoe Maker
John Mason, grandson, 18, Pupil Teacher N.S
James Carter, grandson, 18?, Carpenter, b. Mddx London 
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Re: Maria Mason
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 28 October 07 12:42 GMT (UK) »

In 1851, I can see this possible John:
HO107/1856 136 6
Corfe Castle, Dorset

John Mason, visitor, mar, 40, Fellmonger, b. Hants Romsey

Unfortunately the age isn't 100% clear!
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Re: Maria Mason
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 28 October 07 12:48 GMT (UK) »

Hello to Tati and Nell,
Thank you for your great efforts here,the info you are coming up with seem to be correct?this business if the Middlesex connection,now wonder if this is liked to the fact thet marriage cert for John and Maria show John as a soldier in 77th Middlesex regiment of foot?It could mean maybe that John was from that area?although the marriage was in Portsmouth,a lot closer to where Maria came from?

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Re: Maria Mason
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 28 October 07 13:02 GMT (UK) »

Hmm. I'm wondering if we are tracing the right Maria at all  Undecided Undecided

1851
HO107/1487 356 25
Marylebone, Middlesex
82 Harley St

Maria Mason, serv, unm, 18, servant, b. Hants Romsey

in a large household headed by Susanna Lydia Cowper

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Re: Maria Mason
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 28 October 07 13:13 GMT (UK) »

Looks like the correct maria,and we have that Middlesex thing again?Johns Regiment were from there,but they married in Portsmouth?a real puzzle this one,now wondering if maybe,just maybe,John may have gone abroad with Maria soon after the wedding/On the net I read somewhere that the Regiment saw service in Australia.could mean nothing,really thankful for all your efforts.

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Re: Maria Mason
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 28 October 07 13:17 GMT (UK) »

Well, apart from the fact that she was far from being a major in 1849, she's Mason and unmarried in 1851 when she should be Boyland and married   Huh
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Re: Maria Mason
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 28 October 07 21:08 GMT (UK) »

I've just realised - Maria Mason was only 17 in 1849 when she married (that is, if she has been correctly identified as the one baptised in 1832) - that is not full age.  I know people lied, I know they pulled the wool over the eyes of the clergyman, but.....

And also, Maria was baptised in the anglican church - what about her children with John Boyland?  Were they baptised as Catholics?   Otherwise, why marry in the cathlolic chapel at Eastney.

This is beginning to puzzle me.  Huh

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Re: Maria Mason
« Reply #12 on: Monday 29 October 07 11:28 GMT (UK) »

Hello Nell,
You and me too?There is certainly a real puzzle here Ie Marriage cert states both of full age,and we know that could mean anything over 21?but.If I have the correcect details of a christening in Romsey Hants 1832,which as you say means she was aged 17 in 1849,I think possibly have incorrect info here?Now thinking that perhaps I need to concentrate on the husband John in order to track down the right Maria?The cert say's that John was a soldier in the 77th middlesex regiment of foot,which suggestd that there was a unit of this regiment based in Portsmouth at the time of the wedding in 1849.the cert also tells me that the place of residence at the time of the wedding was the Royal Marine Barracks Eastney Portsmouth.Johns father George is given as a soldier,so is it likely he was in the same regiment?I know, nothing but questions.I find it hard to accept that this couple vanished off the face of the earth after the wedding?So.maybe it is possible they went with the Regiment to Australia/There is mention on the net that the regiment he was in did serve in Australia,a very long shot,I know.I searched for a John Boyland on the IGI and found a John living in Victoria Australia,with no sign of a wife,nor his d.o.b or place of birth,but there were twelve children between1856 and 1876,among these children there is a Ann Maria,a John,and a George,so food for thought?
Do you know anything about how to find a soldier from Army records? maybe that might be the route to take?Thank you for your patience,

Kind regards,

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