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kevan
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Re: Kent Pubs
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 26 April 08 21:56 BST (UK) »

An update on the Golden Fleece, 55 Snargate Street, Dover; I am sure I could not find half of these entries previously!
http://londonpublichouse.com/KentPubs/Dover/GoldenFleece.shtml

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Kevan


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Kevan - Wilding, Littlechild, Beard, Cumbers, Murphy, Wickham, Lagden etc.
Public House info
http://essex1841.com &
http://londonpublichouse.com
http://http://historyofstratford.co.uk//
http://wheninlondon.co.uk/
http://suffolkvillages.com
http://kentvillages.com

doverrog
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Re: Kent Pubs
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 27 April 08 12:29 BST (UK) »

Hi Kevan,
Thanks for the new information.
However I've looked at the link where these appear and don't know how to expand/access them to see the whole entry.
Could you help please?
(Sorry to be thick)
Roger

1828/Sarah Harvey/../../../Pigots Directory ****

1832/John Rose/../../../Pigots Directory ****

1840/William Lake/../../../Pigots Directory ****

1858/Stephen Saunter/../../../Post Office Directory ****

1862/G Goodman/../../../Post Office Directory ****


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MATSON-East Kent. HURST- Oxfordshire.

behindthefrogs
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Re: Kent Pubs
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 27 April 08 12:39 BST (UK) »

The following site is a very good source for recent photographs of old pubs:

http://www.imagesofengland.org.uk/

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Living in Berkshire. From Northampton & Milton Keynes
DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE
Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley.
Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse
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kevan
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Re: Kent Pubs
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 27 April 08 13:20 BST (UK) »

Roger,
That's all there is that I can find for the Fleece / Golden Fleece; should there be more?

I also like the Images of England site, and added to my listing of the same, which is missing loads.
Kevan


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Re: Kent Pubs
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 27 April 08 13:28 BST (UK) »

Kevan,
The heading says -
Year/Publican or other Resident/Relationship to Head and or Occupation/Age/Where Born/Source.
I can only see year/name and directory not the middle part.
I agree about the photo site from English Heritage, I've just signed up as well.


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MATSON-East Kent. HURST- Oxfordshire.

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Re: Kent Pubs
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 27 April 08 13:43 BST (UK) »

Rog, I think there would only be entries for the middle parts if they were census references but it looks to me as if Kevan only has directory references for that pub hence date and name.

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kevan
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Re: Kent Pubs
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 27 April 08 13:49 BST (UK) »

Ah,
I understand now. These are all Trade Directory entries, and do not give very much information. BUT, with Directories, it gives an idea of whom to look for in the census, and I have added an entry for 1861, which does have this information. You may need to refresh the page to see additions.
http://londonpublichouse.com/KentPubs/Dover/GoldenFleece.shtml
You do not mention your interest in this Pub.
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Kevan


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Re: Kent Pubs
« Reply #22 on: Monday 28 April 08 14:09 BST (UK) »

Thanks Kevan.
My interest is that an ancestor of mine, John Matson (1835-1888), owned several pubs in the Pier District of Dover including the “Golden Fleece” and lastly owned a Greengrocers shop in Park Street, Dover.
However as yet I don't know the names of the other pubs he owned.
If anyone can help it would be great.
1871 census shows John as a Farmer of 66 Acres at Little Palmstead Farm, Stelling. Has 3 “Farm Servants”. Gives birthplace as Alkham.
1881 census shows aged 46 and gives birthplace as Frogham, Kent. The family is living at 3 Park Place, Dover.


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