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Topic: COMPLETED - Norton parish register look up please - DUMVILLE (Read 157 times)
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I have a James DUMVILLE who married Elizabeth STURGES at Campton Beds in 1788; the following year they had a son who died 10 days later; after that I lose them.
There's a baptism on the IGI at Norton (7 miles away) on 14 June 1812 of Sarah Sturges DUMVILLE, parents James and Elizabeth, who might be my missing couple, although Elizabeth would have been 45 in 1812.
If anyone could check the register to see if there is any other detail I'd be extremely grateful - James was a cordwainer in 1788.
Many thanks
David
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Baptisms 1812
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Dumville, Sarah Sturges, of James & Elizth. born Jan 7th 1791 - 14 [Jun 1812]
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Brilliant! Thanks very much Richard, better than I was hoping for. On the basis that at the age of 21 Sarah might not have been living with her parents I wonder if this might have been the James who married in Ashwell in 1794 that you found for me a week ago. But for that to work Elizabeth would have needed to have died, and for James to have then married Sarah who died in March 1793.
Very tight timewise, unless Ashwell parish register was wrong when it named her Sarah in both the birth of the stillborn child and the burial in 1793, and it should have been Elizabeth. But that is stretching things a bit too far and is pure speculation!
And if this was the family who emigrated in 1805 why did Sarah stay behind to be baptised in 1812. Need to sit down and think this one through, but with a rare name like Dumville what are the chances of there being two James only a few miles apart?
Thanks again Richard
David
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If that theory's correct, the poor man had 4 wives during the 1790s! It is very tight though - the Sarah who died in 1793 was presumably married to James by early 1792, as they had a child buried at Ashwell in June 1792. That would mean we'd be looking for the death of Elizabeth Dumville nee Sturges and the re-marriage of her James within probably the same year. No plausible marriage shows up on the Allen Index, nor the IGI (albeit I suspect this name has lots of unexpected variations).
If it is a mistake in the Ashwell records, it's one that is repeated on two occasions (several pages apart) - mind you, it was the same curate who registered both burials.
Regards
Richard.
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Thanks for your thoughts Richard. I don't like it that I can't find a marriage for James to Sarah, nor a burial for Elizabeth, and I don't like spinning theories based on "the parish register must be wrong".
But the James from Shefford was from a non-conformist family, and James in Ashwell was also non-conformist, as was the James on Prince Edward Island. I'm confident that James from Ashwell was the one who emigrated, as there is a Canadian record which names his wife as Mary Figus, which is very close phonetically to James third, or possibly fourth, wife Mary Fickess. There's no trace of a baptism of James from Ashwell, but age wise James from Shefford fits well, and there's no trace of either him or Elizabeth after 1791. No burial or census, no remarriage other than Ashwell.
But 4 wives in 6 years beggars belief!
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David
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