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Topic: DebUSA .......... Scavenger Hunt (Everybody is welcome to join in) (Read 2025 times)
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Tephra
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Here's DebUSA's Scavenger Hunt, It's a very interesting one and I'm sure there will be some really good information found for her.
Good luck Deb. 
At the end of this Scavenger Hunt, Deb's thread will be moved to the Traveller Board, it will remain unlocked so the information will stay available it will also make it possible for others to post at a later date.
What I will do is pull up the original Scavenger Hunt Thread and post under each participants name which board their thread has ended up in. After discussing this with a Mod, I think this is the right thing to do.
As from next week, all the Scavenger Hunts will be in the Common Room
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Hi everyone
I am hoping that you can help me fill in some gaps on my Penfold Gypsy family. I am lucky enough to have found them in some censuses but I am missing them in 1871 and 1881....
Thomas Penfold , my Gr gr grandad,( b 1841, Poole Dorset) married Sophia/Soffia Orchard (b 1846) in 1866, South Molton ,Devon.
1891; They are living in tents, Camp Downs, St Austell , Cornwall
RG12/1822 fol 114 p 14 ,transcribed as PENFULL , No place of birth given for any of them except Thomas , the dad , and that is incorrect.
Their children are :
William b 1871-1873. ..my Gr grandfather , married Bessie Palmer = 8 Jan 1898
Defiance b 1872
John 1874 ....married Ellen Small
Christona/Christiana 1875 ..married Edwin Orchard
Christopher 1877 married #1 Carnation Richards, # 2 Maria Boswell
Edward 1879
Soffia 1881
Nelson 1883
Eliza 1886
Harriett 1885 married Samson Richards
Missia 1890
Selina 1891
The furthest back I have gone with the Penfold Family is:
John Pinfold/Penfold b 1809, Warminster married 2 Aug 1831, Pimperne Dorset to Harriet James b 1814, Kingclere, Berkshire. They are the parents of my Thomas Penfold b 1841, Poole.
their other children: Robert (1832), Sarah Harriet (1833), John(1834), Charlotte (1838), Christopher (1843), Elizabeth/betsy (1845), Alfred (1850), Henry (1852), Edward (1853)
(We think that John Pinfold/Penfold's parents may have been John and Charlotte Penfold)
1861: RG9/1601 fol 40 pg 30 ... transcribed as PENFORD
John and Harriet are here with some of their children including my Thomas.
1871: RG10/2148 fol 41 p 16
Harriet Penfold nee James, widow, living in a caravan with some of her children and future daughters-in-law. John Penfold b 1809, died 21 feb 1870.
I started researching this in Feb 2006, when I was very much a newbie . I go back from time to time to see if I can find them.... as you can see it is not easy as they are all over the place.,
This is the thread that you may want to read before searching, so as not to repeat what I have.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=125868.msg558330#msg558330
Thanks you guys
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« Last Edit: Wednesday 31 October 07 10:19 GMT (UK) by Tephra »
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Onley/Only/Olney In Islington.
Abbott In Islington
Wallwork In Bolton and Walkden
Lamb In Bolton and Ireland
Grundy In Bolton
Blackledge In Bolton
Osbaldeston ?? ??
Barnett in Islington
Binyon in Islington
Kitchen in Bolton
Parker in Bolton
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deb usa
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Hi everyone ... sometimes the Penfolds can get really frustrating ... That's why I have left them alone for a while ... hopefully you can do some great digging LOL ....don't forget to look behind the bushes ... sometimes that's where they may be hiding..... 
deb
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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deb usa
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yep ...that's my great grandparents ....
William Penfold married Bessie Palmer ... they had a lot more children, including my nan, Violet Venie ...both died in 1926.
deb
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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geniecolgan
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Hi Deb,
just marking this thread so I can come back with any finds.
Your family history is very interesting, how lucky they stayed in roughly the same area.
I've been reading your other thread and found it facinating.
Off to have breakfast, then I'll start digging.
Genie
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Colgan, Scott, Templeton in Northern Antrim
Colgan in Saskatchewan, Canada
Durrant in Herts & Middlesex
Ford,Smith in Hammersmith, Fulham, Brentford
Whiting in Berkshire
Weller in Sussex and London
Walker in the 24th of Foot, (Canada, Ireland, India and South Africa) and London
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/PENFOLD/2002-03/1015763280
http://website.lineone.net/~rtfhs/journal5.html
http://journeyfolki.org.uk/Community/Forums/tabid/690/forumid/36/postid/1454/view/topic/tpage/2/Default.aspx
http://groups.msn.com/gypsiewitchcraft/askrhianna.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=9692
http://archive.thisisdorset.net/2005/5/11/55910.html
chucking things at you because I don't have any census's... 
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stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell, hepburn,finney,james, nottingham,pollard,grice, derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe. new zealand,turton canada,carson. australia,mitchell,scalley,   |
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deb usa
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Hi , Thanks ...
had to go out ...back now ...Debzzz do you think any of those thousands of hawker/pedlars/travelers could be mine ?
deb
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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geniecolgan
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Why not they all had a load of kids. Are you keeping up the family traditon
I'm still getting your story straight in my head but looking at the same time..... nothing to report yet 
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Colgan, Scott, Templeton in Northern Antrim
Colgan in Saskatchewan, Canada
Durrant in Herts & Middlesex
Ford,Smith in Hammersmith, Fulham, Brentford
Whiting in Berkshire
Weller in Sussex and London
Walker in the 24th of Foot, (Canada, Ireland, India and South Africa) and London
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deb usa
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Nooooo 2 children enough for me ...Lol ...
I think it may help if I give you more on the children of John Penfold (1809) and Harriet James (1814)... at least then you will know why it gets confusing as they all married into each others families.... generation after generation....
gathering info , BRB
deb (who had a glass of wine at lunch and can't type properly now ) 
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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deb usa
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Hi..... Robert Penfold in this family is the Brother of my John Penfold b 1809..
1861:
Robert Penfold 45 born Wiltshire ?busk & mat hawker
Amelia 43 " " "
Robert M 23 born Southhampton "
Thomas 12 born Exeter "
James 11 born Bridgewater
Ollof 8 born Withridge
Henry 6 born Yeovil
Elizabeth 2 born Dorchester
Pricilla 6 monthes "
Maria Thompson 29 born Brockners, Hampshire sister and hawker
Henry 6 born Prath nephew
living Uplyme, Exeter, Devon
RG9/1370
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I am going to copy some of the relevant info from my other thread so we don't have to keep going back....deb
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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deeiluka
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I'm making a list......
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I'll give this a go through the day, Deb.......but I have to tell you my brain is realling after reading through the other thread as well as this one!
Looks like a real challenge! With as many name variations as my Bauers! 
.....dee
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Steeles, Burton, Garrod - Norfolk Bauer - London & France Clarke, Tomblin - Rutland Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, Linnell - Northants Watts - Wiltshire Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp - Germany Redwood -Devon, Essex Blades, Babb- Surrey Selway, Churchill, Chappell - Somerset Watts - Somerset, Wiltshire Button, Archer, Leach - Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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