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Elphinstone Forrest Struthers Mather - Editor Winnipeg Telegram
« on: Tuesday 30 October 07 18:17 GMT (UK) »

Hi,
I'm unsure if this is the correct place to post this.
Trying to find descendants of Elphinstone Mather born 1889 in Glasgow, Scotland.

I believe his wife was Kate E Mather (I don't know maiden name), who was living at 1657 Haro St., Vancouver at the time of his death in 1918 (killed in action in France).

I'm unsure when he emigrated to Canada but was still in Glasgow on the 1901 census.

I live in Glasgow and have no knowledge of how to trace Canadian genealogy so any help would be appreciated.

I'd also be interested in any info about his time as editor of the Winnipeg Telegram.

I have Elphinstone's maternal grandmother's line (Forrest) back to circa 1750 and thought someone might be interested. 
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Re: Elphinstone Forrest Struthers Mather - Editor Winnipeg Telegram
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 19:28 GMT (UK) »

Here are his attestation papers.........

http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc010/488640a.gif

http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc010/488640b.gif

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Re: Elphinstone Forrest Struthers Mather - Editor Winnipeg Telegram
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 19:29 GMT (UK) »

You can search the 1911 Canadian census for free at www.automatedgenealogy.com

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Re: Elphinstone Forrest Struthers Mather - Editor Winnipeg Telegram
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 19:31 GMT (UK) »

He's on the 1911 in Winnipeg, occupation Editor.  He says his year of immigration is 1903.

Karen
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Re: Elphinstone Forrest Struthers Mather - Editor Winnipeg Telegram
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 19:34 GMT (UK) »

If you go the Manitoba Vital Statitics you will find his marriage to Kate Elsworth Stovell August 28, 1915

http://web2.gov.mb.ca/cca/vital/ListView.php

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Re: Elphinstone Forrest Struthers Mather - Editor Winnipeg Telegram
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 19:39 GMT (UK) »

Death Registration for

Kate Ellsworth Mather
Age 69
Death Date:  June 15, 1961
Place of Death:  Victoria, British Columbia
Reg. No. 1961-09-007338

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Re: Elphinstone Forrest Struthers Mather - Editor Winnipeg Telegram
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 19:54 GMT (UK) »



Do you have this already ??

In memory of
Captain ELPHINSTONE FORREST  MATHER
who died on April 9, 1918

Military Service .....
Age -  29
Force - Army
Unit - Canadian Infantry (Manitoba Regiment)
Division - 8th Bn.
Additional Information -
Son of Mr. and Mrs. William Mather, of Glasgow, Scotland -  husband of Kate E. Mather, of Vancouver. Editor of the "Winnipeg Telegram" prior to enlisting in 44th Bn. C.E.F., 1915. Passed Cambridge Staff College course with honours, 1917.
Commemorated on Page 468 of the
First World War Book of Remembrance.

Burial Information ..........
Cemetery -
ECOIVRES MILITARY CEMETERY
Pas de Calais,France
Grave Reference: 1917. VI. L. 11.

Location - Mont St Eloi is a village in the Department of the Pas-de-Calais, 8 kilometres north-west of Arras. The village stands on high ground overlooking the battlefields of Vimy and Souchez and the main Bethune-Arras road, and the ruined towers that rise from it were used as an observation post during the French attacks at Neuville-St Vaast and Givenchy in May 1915. Ecoivres is a hamlet lying at the foot of the hill, to the south-west and about 1.5 kilometres from Mont St Eloi on the Arras-St Pol line. The ECOIVRES MILITARY CEMETERY is on the D49 road.

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Re: Elphinstone Forrest Struthers Mather - Editor Winnipeg Telegram
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 20:00 GMT (UK) »

Karen,
You are amazing Grin
Thanks for the info and the tips.

I do have the CWGC info and all info about him before he left Scotland but the rest of the info you're giving me is new.  TOO fast for me to keep up.  I'll need to take time to digest it all.

Really appreciate your help.  I should have had higher expectations!



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FORREST (Glasgow, Stirlingshire, Dunbartonshire)
BORTHWICK (Midlothian)
ROONEY (Glasgow and Co Down, Co Antrim)
ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness, Glasgow)
FORTUNE (East Lothian)
BARKER (Midlothian / East Lothian) 
SIVES / SIBBES and variations (East Lothian)
ROCHEAD /ROCHEID and variations (Dunbartonshire)

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Re: Elphinstone Forrest Struthers Mather - Editor Winnipeg Telegram
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 20:04 GMT (UK) »

Annie, sorry, never saw you creeping up on me there  Kiss
With all the replies from Karen in quick succession, I just assumed the next one would be from her as well.
Are you stalking me now?   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Dave
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FORREST (Glasgow, Stirlingshire, Dunbartonshire)
BORTHWICK (Midlothian)
ROONEY (Glasgow and Co Down, Co Antrim)
ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness, Glasgow)
FORTUNE (East Lothian)
BARKER (Midlothian / East Lothian) 
SIVES / SIBBES and variations (East Lothian)
ROCHEAD /ROCHEID and variations (Dunbartonshire)

OR VISIT MY SITE FOR MORE NAMES       
http://daval57.tribalpages.com/
access code: aldav5257

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Re: Elphinstone Forrest Struthers Mather - Editor Winnipeg Telegram
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 20:11 GMT (UK) »

Your welcome Dave  Smiley

With respect to information from the Winnipeg newspaper, JJ is from there and will be able to direct you to more information about that I'm sure.

On www.ancestorsonboard.com there is a E. Mather sailing from Glasgow to the USA in 1903 age 21.  I don't have credits for that site.  I did check www.ellisisland.org but didn't find him  Undecided 

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Re: Elphinstone Forrest Struthers Mather - Editor Winnipeg Telegram
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 20:14 GMT (UK) »

I should have also said, you can order his full military file from Library and Archives Canada.  There can be alot of information in them.  Since he did die during the war, I would assume a copy of his will, will be in the file as each fellow had to write out their will by hand in the back of their pay books.

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Re: Elphinstone Forrest Struthers Mather - Editor Winnipeg Telegram
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 20:15 GMT (UK) »

Annie, sorry, never saw you creeping up on me there  Kiss
With all the replies from Karen in quick succession, I just assumed the next one would be from her as well.
Are you stalking me now?   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Dave

I got the information from the Canadian site ! .... I'm looking to see if there is a picture of his grave !

and as to the second question .... you wish !!  Grin
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Re: Elphinstone Forrest Struthers Mather - Editor Winnipeg Telegram
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 20:16 GMT (UK) »


and as to the second question .... you wish !!  Grin
Quote

ROFL  Grin
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Re: Elphinstone Forrest Struthers Mather - Editor Winnipeg Telegram
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 20:30 GMT (UK) »


This is where I got your soldier Dave ....... you can take a copy of the Rememberance page for your site !

http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/remembers/sub.cfm?source=collections/virtualmem/Detail&casualty=65776

They're having technical difficulties on the war graves site ..... so I'll try later !

Annie  Smiley

PS I meant to say ... if we can't get a picture of his grave on line .... I might be able to get a friend to take one ... if you'd like it !!
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Be who you are and say what you feel -  because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind ! Dr. Seuss

Erect no gravestone .... let the Rose every year bloom for his sake ! Rilke Sonnets to Orpheus, I:5

"Our fathers did not talk about psychology - they talked about a knowledge of Human Nature. But they had it, and we have not. They knew by instinct all that we have ignored by the help of information." Chesterton
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Re: Elphinstone Forrest Struthers Mather - Editor Winnipeg Telegram
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 21:04 GMT (UK) »

Cheers guys.
I already have the CWGC image of the remembrance page.
http://www.cwgc.org/search/certificate.aspx?casualty=65776

Think it will be the same as the one on the site you mention.
A photo of his actual grave would be amazing.
Dave

 
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BORTHWICK (Midlothian)
ROONEY (Glasgow and Co Down, Co Antrim)
ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness, Glasgow)
FORTUNE (East Lothian)
BARKER (Midlothian / East Lothian) 
SIVES / SIBBES and variations (East Lothian)
ROCHEAD /ROCHEID and variations (Dunbartonshire)

OR VISIT MY SITE FOR MORE NAMES       
http://daval57.tribalpages.com/
access code: aldav5257

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