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Re: Elphinstone Forrest Struthers Mather - Editor Winnipeg Telegram
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 21:12 GMT (UK) »



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Re: Elphinstone Forrest Struthers Mather - Editor Winnipeg Telegram
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 21:55 GMT (UK) »

There's Christmas stockings and then there are Annie's Hallowe'en stalkings....

re: Winnipeg Telegram- I will have to see if there are publications on microfiche..J.J.
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A painting by his wife...but no on line link, unfortunately....
http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/sn-4994EDA/cgi-bin/text2html/.visual/img_txt/dir_92/pdp02594.txt
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Re: Elphinstone Forrest Struthers Mather - Editor Winnipeg Telegram
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 21:59 GMT (UK) »

In case they may have had a daughter, and this is perhaps more than coincidence, as the name is "Elphinstone Mather Russel"...
I haven't found a Mather  / Russell connection though...

http://www.library.ubc.ca/archives/pdfs/chronicle/AL_CHRON_1945_04.pdf
http://www.library.ubc.ca/archives/pdfs/senate/UBC_Senate_Minutes_1976_05_19.pdf
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Re: Elphinstone Forrest Struthers Mather - Editor Winnipeg Telegram
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 22:28 GMT (UK) »


On www.ancestorsonboard.com there is a E. Mather sailing from Glasgow to the USA in 1903 age 21.  I don't have credits for that site.  I did check www.ellisisland.org but didn't find him  Undecided 


Thanks for this link Karen, He's there  Grin Grin Grin
EFS Mather, 17 in 1905 Glasgow to Montreal.

You guys are just brilliant - I can't keep up with all this. 

JJ I haven't even looked at your links yet but as you say "Elphinstone Mather" is a good clue.

I've actually been really fortunate when it comes to tracing both my dad's line and mum's line.   With names like Elphinstone Forrest and Cornelius Fortune you can't go far wrong.  At the last count I had 15 of each in my tree. 

I got on to Elphinstone Forrest Mather by the same logic as you've linked to Elphinstone Mather Russell.

Thanks again guys.  And to think I had doubts that I was posting in the correct forum  Roll Eyes

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Re: Elphinstone Forrest Struthers Mather - Editor Winnipeg Telegram
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 31 October 07 01:59 GMT (UK) »

HI Daval,

With crossing checking ships that arrived from Glasgow in 1905 in Montreal on the Library and Archives Site and Ancestors on Board site, here is the passenger list with Mr. Mather on it.  He is headed to Brandon, Manitoba initially.

Ship:  SS Sicilian
Date of Departure:  September 2, 1905 - Glasgow
Date of Arrival:  September 12, 1905 - Montreal

He is on page 5

Go to http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/archivianet/passenger/001045-100.01-e.php?PHPSESSID=qo37ji9fop4ntgsfre973b7gg3  and you can view the original image yourself.

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Re: Elphinstone Forrest Struthers Mather - Editor Winnipeg Telegram
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 31 October 07 04:22 GMT (UK) »

Hello Dave

University of B.C. MA Thesis
Elphinstone Russell: A Historical Sketch of Roman Law (1938)
http://www.arts.ubc.ca/index.php?id=3555

From the University of British Columbia's library catalogue further details of the thesis:

Title: A historical sketch of Roman law, by Elphinstone Mather Russell.
 Main Author: Russell, Elphinstone Mather.
Published: [Vancouver] : University of British Columbia, 1938.
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Location: I.K Barber Learning Centre ASRS   
Call Number: LE3 .B7 1938 A8 R8 H5
Number of Items: 1
Status: Available
Subject(s): Roman law.
Description: 168 leaves : ill. ; 28 cm.
Series: University of British Columbia. Dept. of Classics. Thesis. M.A., 1938.
Notes: Thesis (M.A.)--University of British Columbia, 1938.
 Includes bibliographical references.

Burial info for Kate:
MATHER, Kate Ellsworth Stovel
Cemetery: Royal Oak Burial Park (Burial Permit)
Location: Victoria, Falaise Drive
Region: Vancouver Island
Reference: VGS-ROBP-BP
http://www.islandnet.com/cgi-bin/ms2/rsd/search
Note: Ethelwyn Alice Mather, George Hibberd Mather, Richard Mather and William Mather all have the same reference number. There is most likely a relationship to Kate - children and their spouses???

I've sent you a personal email re living decendants.

Cheers,
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Re: Elphinstone Forrest Struthers Mather - Editor Winnipeg Telegram
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 31 October 07 06:19 GMT (UK) »

I cannot believe how far we got with this enquiry in 12 hours.  Yep, posted this at 18.17 yesterday (my time!).
I really must thank you all for your input.
I haven't been lazy either.  I found all Elphinstone's brothers and sisters in Glasgow (courtesy of free Ancestry trial - otherwise I would have had to buy census records from SP) and see that only his older sister went with him to Canada.
I'm now going to try and trace relatives in this country too.

Thanks again guys - I'm well chuffed.   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Re: Elphinstone Forrest Struthers Mather - Editor Winnipeg Telegram
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 31 October 07 06:56 GMT (UK) »


If you are looking for a photograph of Elphinstone's gravesite you may want to check out

www.mapleleaflegacy.ca .

Follow the instructions on the site..

I requested one for my husband's uncle who died in WW1 and I received a lovely photo.

You may already have his burial location but in case you don't he is buried at Ecoivres Military Cemetery

Pas de Calais, France

This is a wonderful site and one people may not be aware of.

Regards from Canada

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Re: Elphinstone Forrest Struthers Mather - Editor Winnipeg Telegram
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 31 October 07 07:04 GMT (UK) »

Thanks, I'll have a look.  I have some stuff from the CWGC site so it may be similar.
Dave

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Re: Elphinstone Forrest Struthers Mather - Editor Winnipeg Telegram
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 31 October 07 07:14 GMT (UK) »

Hi Lillybell,
Just had a look and although I found an entry for him, there is no photo uploaded yet.  The notation is taken straight from the Commonwealth War Graves Commission site and I already have his entry from that.
You might want to have a look at the site if you are not aware of it.  Try looking for your uncle and compare it with mapleleaflegacy.
http://www.cwgc.org/

I'd be interested to know whether the photos are the same.

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Re: Elphinstone Forrest Struthers Mather - Editor Winnipeg Telegram
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 31 October 07 12:11 GMT (UK) »

 

I went back to www,mapleleafelegacy.ca and I see  that Ecoivres  Military Cemetery has been done.

All you need to do is send them a e-mail with your ancestors particulars requesting a  photo..Follow the instructions posted on site. I had to wait a while before I received mine. No charge for the photo but donations accepted.

Have you checked out the Canadian Virtual War Memorial.? That is where I found Elphinstone.

You can submit  a picture  of your ancestor on the site. 

Have you sent for his attestation papers? The cost is about $ 30.00 Canadian and well worth the money. Makes for some very interesting reading.It can take a while to receive the papers as they are always backed up.

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Re: Elphinstone Forrest Struthers Mather - Editor Winnipeg Telegram
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 31 October 07 13:36 GMT (UK) »

Judging by the posting from Linda, and the timeframe of the thesis by the younger Elphinstone....this may be the sister's son...as reading through once again, they were only married in 1915....awe, such a short time together.... Cry
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Also saw a death for a William Mather Russel... who was born early 1900's
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Re: Elphinstone Forrest Struthers Mather - Editor Winnipeg Telegram
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 31 October 07 16:28 GMT (UK) »

This may well be the same Kate, then, as she was in Victoria...
Transcript of an interview with Mrs. Kate Mather concerning Emily Carr. ( circa 1957)
http://www.library.ubc.ca/archives/u_arch/walker1.html

Kate had shops in Victoria and was a tennant of Emily Carr's ( she is a well known Canadian artist!)...She had Emily make some clay works for her shops...wow, what a prized possession that would be to have one of those works!
http://friendsofbeaconhillpark.ca/nl/nl_022002.pdf
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Kate had shops in Victoria and was a tennant of Emily Carr's ( she is a well known Canadian artist!)...She had Emily make some clay works for her shops...wow, what a prized possession that would be to have one of those works!
http://friendsofbeaconhillpark.ca/nl/nl_022002.pdf

That was one of the questions on Do you Think you Are Smarter than a 5th Grade Canadian last week  Grin  What was the woman's name in Canada's famous Group of 7  Smiley

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Re: Elphinstone Forrest Struthers Mather - Editor Winnipeg Telegram
« Reply #29 on: Monday 05 November 07 17:31 GMT (UK) »

Not sure exactly when I am getting down to the leg. library....but what am I looking for? I can see if there are copies of the editions of the paper...and if he was a vocal editor, then he may have something of note in there...or were you wanting something else, can't remember? There will likely be an obit for him....am I looking for it or will it merely duplicate all that you have?
Let me know so that it can be added to the wish list  Grin J.J.
Plus Karen I had p.m'd you regarding what the census listing was for Elphinstone...as I couldn't find it.  Roll Eyes
also..Karen, you should report that you are having trouble with that feature, as it seems an odd glitch...... Tongue
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