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Topic: Elphinstone Forrest Struthers Mather - Editor Winnipeg Telegram (Read 540 times)
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daval57
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Initially I was only looking for any info on descendants of Elphinstone and Kate and perhaps any reference to Elphinstone of his time as Editor.
To be honest, I haven't had time to get my head round all the information you've supplied.
Due to a family bereavement, I've had to put things to the side.
I'll get back to this but thanks to all for your help so far.
Dave
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------------------- FORREST (Glasgow, Stirlingshire, Dunbartonshire) BORTHWICK (Midlothian) ROONEY (Glasgow and Co Down, Co Antrim) ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness, Glasgow) FORTUNE (East Lothian) BARKER (Midlothian / East Lothian) SIVES / SIBBES and variations (East Lothian) ROCHEAD /ROCHEID and variations (Dunbartonshire) OR VISIT MY SITE FOR MORE NAMES http://daval57.tribalpages.com/access code: aldav5257Census information is Crown Copyright |
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Hello Dave
Whenever you resume your search, I suspect some of the names below may be children of Elphinstone and Kate. They all have the same grave reference number.
Burial info for Kate:
MATHER, Kate Ellsworth Stovel
Cemetery: Royal Oak Burial Park (Burial Permit)
Reference: VGS-ROBP-BP
Note: Ethelwyn Alice Mather, George Hibberd Mather, Richard Mather and William Mather all have the same reference number. There is most likely a relationship to Kate - children and their spouses???
You could try contacting the cemetery to establish the relationship. http://www.robp.ca/contactus.shtml
Here is a Kate Stovel on the 1911 census in Winnipeg with her family:
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/Test16.jsp?id=33375
Linda
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Dorman, Waite, Moore, Clark/Clarke, Neil, Rennie/Rainey, Brown, Mclean, Day, Millar/Miller, Gunion/Gunzion, Thomson, Black, Milvain, McCubbin, Steadman, Kirby
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J.J.
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So very sorry for your recent loss...Dave...It changes some things in one's life does it not? It sometimes feels as though I am looking at the world through different eyes....
and speaking of eyes "my eyes, my eyes!"
was at the leg. library ( LUCKY ME ...I could live there...)
But was disappointed to find that there wasn't an obit for him in his own newspaper...if there was, it wasn't within a reasonable date of the actual death...I think we need to go a different route, if you want to and I'll try looking around the time he enlisted, as they may have something on that...
I saw many listed who were headed out....
Henderson Directory listings:
1910- Mather E.F.S Reporter Telegram - 51 Steele-Blk
1911- Mather Elphinstone F.S. municipal reporter "Telegram" - h suite 27 Tourraine BLK
1912- Mather Elphinstone F.S. Asst news editor Telegram - suite 6 Prince Rupert (380 Ellice)
1913- Mather Elphinstone F.S. editor Telegram h - 5 Prince Rupert
1914- Mather E. Forrest S. city editor r. - 80 Spence
1915- Mather E. Forrest emp r - 80 Spence
Telegram Printing was at 344 McDermot ( Albert @ McDermot)
Don't know if this building still exists...
all the best, J.J.
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J.J.
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Plus I forgot to write Kate's name down and search for her...Mustn't forget the ladies...Although the directories only would have her listed if she was working... Not always likely in THOSE days  J.J.
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By the by- Elphinstone was never the "chief" editor, unfortunately...although he seemed to be trying to work his way up there...I was hoping to find an image of him listed on the main business listing but he never was on it, just the chief's name...and other head columnists.
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daval57
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I'm sorry everyone, I got distracted and haven't come back to this thread for a while but it is on my 'agenda'.
I will return very soon.
Thanks so much for all the responses.
JJ What is the Henderson Directory?
As an aside, Elphinstone is a family name. My cousin Brian that died recently (only 53) was the son of an Elphinstone Forrest, my da's closest brother. I was Brian's best man at his wedding.
Having a name like Elphinstone in the family has been a huge plus in helping me trace family. I've found 17 Elphinstone's, all directly linked to my family. That does not include other Elphinstone's, such as Elphinstone Forrest Mather . It makes me feel really proud that the name was and still is out there. That is one of the reasons I started this post - to try and get in touch with any descendents of Elphie Mather - I can show them their ancestry back to 1750ish.
I prattle too much......sorry.
In case you've forgotten what this was about........
JJ what is Hendersons?
Dave
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------------------- FORREST (Glasgow, Stirlingshire, Dunbartonshire) BORTHWICK (Midlothian) ROONEY (Glasgow and Co Down, Co Antrim) ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness, Glasgow) FORTUNE (East Lothian) BARKER (Midlothian / East Lothian) SIVES / SIBBES and variations (East Lothian) ROCHEAD /ROCHEID and variations (Dunbartonshire) OR VISIT MY SITE FOR MORE NAMES http://daval57.tribalpages.com/access code: aldav5257Census information is Crown Copyright |
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Hi Dave...
It is the Winnipeg business directory in use at the time...and a wonderful source, but only good for cross-referencing if the person was working at the time...or used enough of their name to recognize them....They are all on a microfilm for each year they were in business....
J.J.
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Hi Dave,
I notice that you have East Lothian connections, I was born there at a place called Tranent, next to the mining village of Elphinstone. Do you think he got the name from the place, or did one of your ancestors name the place?
Tom
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Scotland - Buchanan, Thomson, Paterson, Stewart, Ritchie, Tracey
Ireland - Tracey, Conroy, Paterson.
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start again.... You are welcome David...
I am glad that you appreciated the information re: his time as editor of the Winnipeg Telegram.
J.J.
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daval57
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Tidybooks, Elphinstone village is one of the places I have considerd as the origin of the name. I'm really not sure. There was also a Lord Elphinstone that I'm surte your aware of. There is also an Elphins Parish in Ireland.
This is another reason I'm trying to find out as much as possible about all the Elphinstone's in my family. I'm hoping that the more information I can gather about anyone with the name will help me get my family further back than I have.
Dave
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daval57
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All this information is fantastic.
I really appreciate all the effort that has been put into this.
JJ in particular got some brilliant info, not to detract from everyone elses efforts. Amazing stuff JJ.
I'd never heard of Hendersons before but will watch for that in the future.
I will be adding all these facts to my personal site as soon as possible so that other members of my family can share it.
As I said in earlier posts, I just need time to get my head round it - more important things to think about just now - actual deaths mean more to me than those of ancestors that I wish I knew more about.
Thank you all.
Dave
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daval57
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I've now added this info to my site.
Now that I've had time to take it all in, I realise properly how much effort you guys have put in.
Sorry if I didn't show proper appreciation in earlier posts.
Thanks again.
Waiteohman - Ta for the PM - I'm hoping to get a phone call, letter or email.
Dave
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HeeHee...  Nice avatar, Dave...Whatever does it mean?? J.J.
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daval57
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Twas for your benefit JJ.
Glad you appreciated it.
Dave
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