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Devon Census Look Up again please
« on: Tuesday 30 October 07 18:34 GMT (UK) »

Hi again

Could someone please try and find a family for me in Devon?

I have tried and tried but to no avail.

The details are :-

William Ellis born c. 1800-1810

Rebecca Ellis born c. 1800-1810

They were married on 3rd Aug 1827  in Paignton and her maiden name was Andrews.

They had 5 children all born in Paignton, Devon:-

William 1828
Ann 1830
Thomas 1832 (Known to be a fisherman in 1851)
Henry 1834
Mary 1836

William was a labourer according to Thomas' marriage cert of July 1853.

Any help as always would be greatly received.

Thanks

Ian

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Re: Devon Census Look Up again please
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 18:40 GMT (UK) »

Hi Ian,

Maybe? Huh

1841
HO107/228/12 4 2
Paignton, Devon
Polsom Village

William Ellis, 35, Ag lab, yes
Charlotte, 21, S (or I?)
Henry, 7, yes
Mary, 5, yes
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Sarah Franks, 18, F Ag lab, yes

(possible marriage Dec 1838 Totnes William Ellis - Charlotte Franks)
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Re: Devon Census Look Up again please
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 19:03 GMT (UK) »

1851 HO107/1873/84/5.
william ellis age 45. b paignton. occ. labourer. head.
charlotte ellis age 31. b. dublin,ireland. wife.
henry ellis age 16. b. paignton. occ. labourer. son.
mary cornish age 51. b. brixham. visitor.(unmarried)
living at winner street,paignton,devon.
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Re: Devon Census Look Up again please
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 19:12 GMT (UK) »

1841 possibly william junior
1841 HO107/228/book15/7/10.
thomas webber age 30. occ. cannot make out his occ.
thomas parnell age 15. occ. apprentice
william ellis age 13. occ. apprentice.
living at palace place,paignton,devon
all born in county
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Re: Devon Census Look Up again please
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 19:18 GMT (UK) »

Hi Wozzle  Smiley

I think Thomas Webber is a servant - maybe they 'belong' to the household headed by Richard ?Lash?, gardener  Smiley
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Re: Devon Census Look Up again please
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 19:23 GMT (UK) »

1841 possibly thomas.
1841 HO107/228/book15/10/15.
ann coombes age 61
john coombes age 38. occ. farmer
william coombes age 36. occ. farmer.
ellin coombes age 19.
thomas tucker age 19. occ. agr.lab.
john battershell age 17. occ. agr.lab.
jane codbeer age 17. occ. agr.lab.
george kendler age 17. occ. agr.lab.
charles eales age 13. occ. agr. lab.
thomas ellis age 9. occ. agr. lab.
living at fisher street,paignton,devon.
all born in county.
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Re: Devon Census Look Up again please
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 22:03 GMT (UK) »

Thanks all,

I think you have come up with some possibilities. I know I've looked at  the one Tati located and ignored it as the name was wrong. However, driving home just now I thought what if Rebecca died after giving birth to Mary?

I have looked on IGI but only came up with a 6 year old, and FreeBMD came up with an 1840 death. This one would fit but then the marriage Tati has found wouldn't. It does look quite a likely marriage between William and Charlotte with Sarah presumeably her younger sister living with them.

I suppose the next thing would be to risk a marriage certificate to see if William was a widower.

Bearing in mind the marriage date would mean Rebecca's death would probably fall outside the 1837 Act but it may be in a burial record? Are there any ways to look up burials in the area. I'm afraid I don't know the area at all, I've been there on holiday but not for years!

Thanks for now

Ian
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Re: Devon Census Look Up again please
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 22:31 GMT (UK) »

Thanks to your help I've now traced William/Charlotte through to the 1871 census and possibly Charlotte as a nurse again in 1881 ( place of birth is wrong, although in the previous ones she has been born in Dublin and Cork!)

I've tried FreeBMD again and found four possible deaths for William. William is the person I'm the most interested in, along with Rebecca as they were my GGG Grandparents but when I start on the sibling expansion of my tree I'll need to come back to Charlotte possibly.

Ian
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