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Topic: Arrival of John & Georgina Hardley COMPLETED! (Read 587 times)
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sparrett
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Hi All,
Dee, I too think PORT is Portland, but am not positive.
I have Ian Marr's Cemetry Headstone index for the region and have checked for Hardley, but nothing to see.
I then wondered Portarlington and loooked at the Geelong district cemetery site [zades] and again no go
The family do seem to have moved about a bit with births at Collingwood, Bendigo and Portland [if we are right]
By the way. Has anybody noted what an extraordinarily unusual name Gamersway/Ganersway is?
Georgina seems to be the only one on record and I note the only google hits for the name relate to postings which you, Kaye, have put on boards around rootscat and such.
would be interesting to know the origins of the name.
Sue
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deeiluka
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Hi Sue and Kaye
Little John was born in Portland in 1855....then died in PORT in 1857....so I would be fairly confident that the PORT referred to Portland.
.....dee
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deeiluka
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Only 3 x Gamersway in 1841 in England, Sue.....Georgina's family.....
HO107/38/5/31/9
Ann Gamersway 35
Jane Gamersway 11
Georgiana Gamersway 5
All born Middlesex, England
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Steeles, Burton, Garrod - Norfolk Bauer - London & France Clarke, Tomblin - Rutland Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, Linnell - Northants Watts - Wiltshire Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp - Germany Redwood -Devon, Essex Blades, Babb- Surrey Selway, Churchill, Chappell - Somerset Watts - Somerset, Wiltshire Button, Archer, Leach - Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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deeiluka
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That's the only census the name appears with the Gamersway spelling. In 1851 Georgiana appears with her mother ......
HO107/1478/346/10
St George Hanover Square
3 Warwick Row
Ann Gameriway 42 Widow Lodging House keeper born Dundee Scotland
Georgiana Gameriway 15 born Windsor, Berkshire, England Daur Assistant
They are the only two with the name in the 1851 Census ....and it is recorded that way.
There is a family of 8 by the name of Gamersal in 1851 in Yorkshire and 2 by that name in 1871.
Like you, Sue....am curious about the origins of the unusual name.  
.....dee
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Steeles, Burton, Garrod - Norfolk Bauer - London & France Clarke, Tomblin - Rutland Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, Linnell - Northants Watts - Wiltshire Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp - Germany Redwood -Devon, Essex Blades, Babb- Surrey Selway, Churchill, Chappell - Somerset Watts - Somerset, Wiltshire Button, Archer, Leach - Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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tropicalj
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hello there
A very interesting name
by the marriage which you no doubt would have seen the entry
Georgina Gamersway 1852 Jul-Aug-Sep Westminster St Margaret Middlesex
Georgina Gumersway 1852 Jul-Aug-Sep Westminster St Margaret Middlesex
John Hardley 1852 Jul-Aug-Sep Westminster St Margaret Middlesex
The surname was a bit confused there too!!
Ann Gamersway death
Ann Gammersway abt 1815 1875 Apr-May-Jun St George Hanover Square London, Middlesex
regards Jenn
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Research names or areas: I live in Thuringowa/Townsville Queensland, Australia and I am researching TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire, ADAMSON from NSW, BAYLEY from Dorset,Yorkshire, HAIR from Durham, CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire, SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE from Kent, EDSALL from Cornwall, BRYAN from Staffordshire, MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER from Ireland, VAN REYK, DE LA HARPE, from Sri Lanka Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalar |
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tropicalj
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Hello there
Dee
I did notice on the 1841 census the Gamersway family was living at the same address as the Baldick family not when you click to see if others listed on page both Mary Baldick and Ann Gamersway are listed as birth place Ireland?? so that is confusing isn't it
regards Jenn
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Research names or areas: I live in Thuringowa/Townsville Queensland, Australia and I am researching TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire, ADAMSON from NSW, BAYLEY from Dorset,Yorkshire, HAIR from Durham, CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire, SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE from Kent, EDSALL from Cornwall, BRYAN from Staffordshire, MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER from Ireland, VAN REYK, DE LA HARPE, from Sri Lanka Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalar |
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deeiluka
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And the only other one I have found was the death of a James Gamerswaye in 1846 Westminster!
Things like this are so intriguing!
.....dee
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JAP
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It's certainly a most unusual name. Might it be a version of the (more common) names GAN(N)AWAY or GAM(E)SBY or variants of those?
Some FreeBMD names similar to GAMERSWAY (apart from Georgiana's marriage) are:
GAMERSWAYES James death Dec 1846, Westminster (already mentioned)
GAMSWAY Robert marriage March 1847, Gateshead
GAMMONSWAY William (58) death Dec 1867, Pancras
GAMMERSWAY Ann (60) death June 1875, St Geo H Sq (already mentioned)
GAMMONDSWAY Ann (70) death, March 1871 Greenwich
GAMMAWAY Julia Olivia marriage, March 1888, Dartford
GAMMONSWAY Elizabeth Ann marriage, June 1898, Houghton
GAMMONSWAY Sarah Jane marriage, June 1898, Holborn
From the IGI there's only? an LDS submission for Thomas GAMMAWAY m 1797 Westminster St George Hanover Square.
Some - very few - Google hits for GAMMONSWAY.
There's a place called Garmondsway in Co Durham.
Ah now!!!
Could this be it!
There are quite a few hits in the IGI for GARMONDSWAY and variants ...
And several for GARMONSWAY, GARMANSWAY, GARMENSWAY, GARMINSWAY, GARMINGSWAY, GARMONDSWAY, GARMOUSWAY on FreeBMD.
And Google hits.
Weird.
JAP
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Scotland - HALL, HARLEY, LOCHTY/LOCHTIE/LOUGHTIE/LOUGHTY (very rare), MCLAUSE/MCLAWS/MCILHOSE/HOSE (quite rare and many very variable spellings - close to 100 to date), PHILP/PHILIP, VASSIE; Ireland - BOURKE/BURKE, DONOHUE (many spellings), DOOLEY, KINSELLA, MAXWELL, OSBORNE, RAFFERTY, STA(U)NTON, SULLIVAN; England - BAYES, BROWNELL, DALTON, FREEMAN, HACKING, PIERCY, SIDDLE, SWIFT, SULLIVAN, TINK(L)ER, TRIPPIT. Any spellings and many other names!
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maizcl
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Hi Dee, Sue, Jenn, Jap, 
I applied for an online image certificate of birth for Mary Ann Hardley. Born 12th March 1861 East Collingwood.
Father: John Hardley born Cambridgeshire 1832.
Mother: Georgina Gamersway born Windsor near London 1836.
I now have confirmation that John and Georgina are the Hardleys i am researching.
Thanks Dee for the 1851 info on Ann and Georgina. I wonder where Ann was born - Scotland or Ireland  .
In the 1841 census she stated Ireland as her place of birth.
On the 1852 marriage certificate Georgina stated Father's name was John - deceased.
With the variants in the spelling of surnames and birthplace, for a novice such as myself it is so confusing.
Gamersway is an unusual name. I must admit it sounds Irish to me. Between Hardley Harley Hartley Hawdley etc etc and Gamersway, Gumersway, Ganersway etc etc, no wonder i am going grey and sometimes would like to tear my hair out.
Once again, thank you all,
Take care,
Kaye
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HARDLEY: from the UK to Victoria to New Zealand to New South Wales.
ELGAR: from the UK to New South Wales
WILLIAMS: from Wales to New South Wales
HOPE: from the UK to Australia.
I live in Newcastle - NSW - Australia
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gennig
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Hi Kaye
Finally got the SLV.
Passenger List for the "Birmingham" which sailed from Plymouth 27th September 1854 and arrived at Portland Victoria 6th January 1855
John HARTLEY 22 from Middlesex Occupation: Carpenter
Georgina HARTLEY 19 from Middlesex
Georgina HARTLEY 1
Religion: Church of England. John & Georgina were stated as both being able to read and write.
Came on own account - in other words paid the bounty themselves.
Cheers
Genni
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