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Derby Saracens Head, Cantrill family.
« on: Sunday 04 November 07 23:05 GMT (UK) »

Hi

I've got a family at the Saracen's Head in Derby in 1859.  Does anyone know if it is still there please?

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Re: Derby Saracens Head, Cantrill family.
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 04 November 07 23:10 GMT (UK) »

Hi Emms,

I'm not from Derby but I've done a quick google and it appears there is a Saracen's Head still there, address at 17 Victoria St, Derby, DE1 1ES

There's a link with a not-so-good photo and a little bit of info;
http://www.derbyshireuk.net/shirley.html
I think the address of this place is The Saracens Head, Shirley, Ashbourne, Derbyshire DE6 3AS

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« Reply #2 on: Sunday 04 November 07 23:14 GMT (UK) »

There are also two lists in the Pigot's Commercial Directory of 1835:

Saracen's Head, Mary Dowdeswell, Brailsford
Saracen's Head, Robert Goodall, Shirley
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Denbighshire - Roberts, Parry
Cheshire - Corns, Walley, Hough, Pridden, Jackson, Lawson, Rosedale, Rigby
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London - Liddell, Wilkes, Hart
Cornwall - Liddell, Varcoe, Parkin, Whetter, Thomas
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Re: Derby Saracens Head, Cantrill family.
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 04 November 07 23:17 GMT (UK) »

Hi Lisa

You can't get quicker than that, can you? Thank you very much!  My Saracen's Head is in Derby itself, Derby St Peter's area, so next I need to find Victoria Stree.  A map in the morning!

Thank you for the other Saracen's too.  It was interesting to see.

Thank you again Emms
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Re: Derby Saracens Head, Cantrill family.
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 04 November 07 23:20 GMT (UK) »

Hi and Thank You! again!

Mine is definitely Derby itself but it's interesting it's not listed with those.  I do have another pub name on another census, and I wondered if it had changed its name.  I will  look it up!

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Re: Derby Saracens Head, Cantrill family.
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 04 November 07 23:27 GMT (UK) »

PS I've loop and I don't think that's relevant.  It was St James Lane but it was a victualler's so it may not have been a pub.  The other pub was in All Saints Derby.  Not St Peter's.

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Re: Derby Saracens Head, Cantrill family.
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 04 November 07 23:30 GMT (UK) »

I was going to say, the first Saracen's Head I sent you, on Victoria Street, leads on to St Peter's Street, and there's also a St Peter's Church Yard nearby.

Not sure if it's the Saracen's Head any more as I've gone to more sites, but it's still a pub.

Doesn't matter, but good luck.
Kind Regards,
Lisa.
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Denbighshire - Roberts, Parry
Cheshire - Corns, Walley, Hough, Pridden, Jackson, Lawson, Rosedale, Rigby
Lancashire - Smith, Caunce, Borrow, Eaton, Fryer, Mitchell, Watkinson, As(h)croft, Wilson, Bownas
Staffordshire - Wood
Cumbria - Twentyman, Borrow
London - Liddell, Wilkes, Hart
Cornwall - Liddell, Varcoe, Parkin, Whetter, Thomas
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Re: Derby Saracens Head, Cantrill family.
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 04 November 07 23:34 GMT (UK) »

Hi Lisa

That's brilliant.  It looks as if it's very likely still there.  Your local knowledge of the place, really pinned it gown.  Thank you!

Best wishes

Emms
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