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Topic: Dee's Scavenger Hunt Part 2 (Everybody welcome to join in) (Read 4699 times)
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deeiluka
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Thanks for that, Barbara.....
Following the marriage certificate arrival today for Joseph BAUER and Emma MANSFIELD, I went back to the 1841 census to look for Emma again.
The only Emma Mansfield I can find born in Montgomeryshire is the following……
HO107/ 1440/ 14/ 17/ 25
Aberhafesp Berriew, Montgomery Wales
Joseph Mansfield 63 Farmer
Emma Mansfield 19
Evan Brunt 37
Martha Jones 17
This Emma does have a father Joseph, but he is a farmer, not a Timber merchant. He was not born in the county, while all the others were.
There does not seem to be an appropriate Emma in the 1841 Census for England, and in 1851 Emma did say she was born Montgomery.
......dee
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Steeles, Burton, Garrod - Norfolk Bauer - London, France Clarke, Tomblin - Rutland Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, Linnell - Northants Watts - Wiltshire Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp - Germany Redwood -Devon, Essex Blades, Babb- Surrey Selway, Churchill, Chappell - Somerset Watts - Somerset, Wiltshire Button, Archer, Leach - Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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davidpinkney
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Margaret Richardson (nee Robinson)
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Is Joseph's father Nicholas noted as deceased on the marriage cert?
David
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deeiluka
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Neither father is noted as deceased, David. 
I've been trawling IGI records for Nicolas/Nicolaus Bauer/Baur but nothing conclusive comes up.
I also checked the 1841 census for Nicolas, but nothing readily appears.
......dee
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Steeles, Burton, Garrod - Norfolk Bauer - London, France Clarke, Tomblin - Rutland Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, Linnell - Northants Watts - Wiltshire Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp - Germany Redwood -Devon, Essex Blades, Babb- Surrey Selway, Churchill, Chappell - Somerset Watts - Somerset, Wiltshire Button, Archer, Leach - Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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deeiluka
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In 1851 there is a retired merchant/carter named Joseph Mansfield aged 78 and a widower born Oxton, Cambridgeshire, England living with daughter Mary Ann Mansfield in Cambridge. None of the other Joseph Mansfields look likely. I can’t see him in 1861, so most likely he had died by then. I was hoping maybe young George Bauer would turn up with him. 
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Steeles, Burton, Garrod - Norfolk Bauer - London, France Clarke, Tomblin - Rutland Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, Linnell - Northants Watts - Wiltshire Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp - Germany Redwood -Devon, Essex Blades, Babb- Surrey Selway, Churchill, Chappell - Somerset Watts - Somerset, Wiltshire Button, Archer, Leach - Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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deb usa
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Hi Deetwin
have you received the marriage cert for Joseph Bauer and jane Lee yet ...is he the son of Joseph the cook from France who married Isabella ??
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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deeiluka
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Deb.....have a look at
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,263507.285.html
.....dee
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deb usa
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Deetwin
I am so excited for you! Joseph Bauer , cook was b in France ... do you think his dad, Nicholas , may have been too?
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
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deeiluka
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Deb, I suspect Nicolas was born in France, most likely in the Alsace region. There are a lot of Nicolaus Bauers listed on the IGI.....but no connection to Joseph that I can see.
The Horse Dealer bit has me intrigued......
......dee
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Steeles, Burton, Garrod - Norfolk Bauer - London, France Clarke, Tomblin - Rutland Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, Linnell - Northants Watts - Wiltshire Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp - Germany Redwood -Devon, Essex Blades, Babb- Surrey Selway, Churchill, Chappell - Somerset Watts - Somerset, Wiltshire Button, Archer, Leach - Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Deb, I suspect Nicolas was born in France, most likely in the Alsace region. There are a lot of Nicolaus Bauers listed on the IGI.....but no connection to Joseph that I can see.
The Horse Dealer bit has me intrigued......
......dee
would he have been born France as a British Subject? also what year please i can Browse Overseas Records 1761-1981
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deeiluka
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Toni,
Joseph Bauer was given on the 1851 Census as born in Paris, France. His year of birth was c1796. Joseph named one of his sons Francoise, and the name survived for two more generations.
As for Nicolas, I really don't have any idea when he was born.
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deeiluka
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Toni,
I registered and checked the Overseas Index, but no Bauers are on it. I'll have another look at the site shortly if I can stay awake; otherwise I'll do it tomorrow.
Many thanks....
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deeiluka
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Yippee! Just received the birth certificate of little George Bauer. Everything confirms what has already been discovered thanks to all the folk on this thread.....George was born 9th January 1848 at Isleworth to Joseph Bauer, cook, and Emma Bauer formerly Mansfield.
Next.....the marriage certificate of Joseph who married Jane Lee......but need to find the exact marriage reference first......
.....dee
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deb usa
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woohoooooo DEETWIN ....
I am sure that somewhere on the thread is the ref for Jane Lee and Joseph Bauer ...I think Part 1 ...it took me days to find ... LOL 
debtwin
ps ...he was joseph BOWER
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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