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Topic: 1901 Census Jeannie HUNTER (Read 973 times)
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kaperc
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I might be asking too much, if so, just tell me.
We have two letters from a Jeannie HUNTER written 1917 & 1919 from Lisnafin, Newtownstewart, Co. Tyrone to family in New Zealand. We can tell she was an adult, but do not know if she was married. Someone in the NZ family visited her there during WW1.
I was wondering if this is enough information to try to find her in the census, if someone would be so kind.
She signed herself as a cousin to our FULTON relatives, and if we can identify her, we might be able to clarify the relationships of so many of our Fulton families. They intermarried quite a bit and it's a real headache, since they often use the same names. I can't tell you how many William Fultons are in this line!
Thanks for any help you can give.
Kathleen
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England - Todmorden/Burnley: Cooper, Horsfall, Greenwood, Kershaw, Strachan, Hargreaves, Grimley
England - Somerset: Chivers, Lintern, Memory; Tefft
Ireland - Co. Tyrone: McElrea, Fulton, Forsythe
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aghadowey
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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A Jeannie HUNTER of Lisnafin signed Ulster Covenant in 1912 if you go on to PRONI site and put in Hunter (surname) & Lisnafin (address) 5 Hunters come up: Jeannie, Andrew, A.J., W.J. & Eliza. Click on link on right side to see the actual signatures (you can then compare Jeannie's signature there to writing in letter).
www.proni.gov.uk/ulstercovenantsearch
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kaperc
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Great idea! I think I'm safe in assuming either her father or husband is Andrew Hunter, as they signed at the same location and she witnessed his signature. There's another clue.
Thanks.
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England - Todmorden/Burnley: Cooper, Horsfall, Greenwood, Kershaw, Strachan, Hargreaves, Grimley
England - Somerset: Chivers, Lintern, Memory; Tefft
Ireland - Co. Tyrone: McElrea, Fulton, Forsythe
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aghadowey
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Just a guess but perhaps Andrew Hunter was married to Eliza Hunter as both used their mark.
Yes, I was correct. Decided to look at IGI before posting this and.....
Andrew John Hunter born 11 Feb.1879 Lisnefin Co. Tyrone son of Andrew Hunter and Eliza Fulton!
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kaperc
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Ha ha - we must have been sharing bandwidth! Yes, I think that's the answer. Of course, there are no marriages for Andrew and Eliza. Can't win them all.
Some background: We had no clue to our ggm's family. She was Isabella Fulton, dtr of William and Mary Ann (nee Fulton) and married William Fulton, son of William Fulton. Recently, we were contacted by a cousin in NZ - descendant of our ggm's sister. Nearby, we found another cousin, descended from the brother. Their family has passed down stories about visiting brothers and sisters in Ireland and it occurred to me this Jeannie might be a clue to them.
My US cousin and I have both been to Newtownstewart, we've had help from very nice people there, but we never hit the correct Fulton family. It's so difficult to link them.
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England - Todmorden/Burnley: Cooper, Horsfall, Greenwood, Kershaw, Strachan, Hargreaves, Grimley
England - Somerset: Chivers, Lintern, Memory; Tefft
Ireland - Co. Tyrone: McElrea, Fulton, Forsythe
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kaperc
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Sorry, I meant none at familysearch.org.
Today, my NZ cousin sent me the following (from emeraldancestors.com) which is a possible:
Entry Details
Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 17 Jan 1878
Groom Name andrew HUNTER
Bride Name eliza FULTON
Church Ardstraw Church of Ireland
Parish Ardstraw
Civil District Strabane
County Tyrone
With these names being so common, I know better than to jump up and down just yet. So far, the only Eliza (with variations) Fulton birth that comes up is from 1864, and that would make her far too young for this marriage.
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England - Todmorden/Burnley: Cooper, Horsfall, Greenwood, Kershaw, Strachan, Hargreaves, Grimley
England - Somerset: Chivers, Lintern, Memory; Tefft
Ireland - Co. Tyrone: McElrea, Fulton, Forsythe
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aghadowey
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Civil registration of births in Ireland only started 1864 so 1) you will not get a birth certificate for Eliza Fulton m.1878 and 2) most Irish birth records 1864-c1882 on IGI are taken from civil records.
Most Irish marriages are not listed on IGI so just because the marriage doesn't appears there does not mean it did not exist.
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kaperc
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Ah, yes. I'm usually working with records in England, which start 1837. I forgot.
Christenings, then?
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England - Somerset: Chivers, Lintern, Memory; Tefft
Ireland - Co. Tyrone: McElrea, Fulton, Forsythe
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aghadowey
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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To get baptisms and other church records you need to know what religion family were and where they lived, then find the nearest churches and see if their records still exist.
Some church records are available on microfilm through LDS- they can be ordered then viewed at your local LDS library for a small fee. You can search LDS catalogue at www.familysearch.org to see what's available (use Place Search button).
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kaperc
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Couldn't find any for Ardstraw Parish, where Lisnafin is located. Most if not all the family was C of I.
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England - Todmorden/Burnley: Cooper, Horsfall, Greenwood, Kershaw, Strachan, Hargreaves, Grimley
England - Somerset: Chivers, Lintern, Memory; Tefft
Ireland - Co. Tyrone: McElrea, Fulton, Forsythe
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aghadowey
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This is not about your family but there are interesting bits about Ardstraw area here:
http://love-genealogy.com/love-genealogy-generation-08.htm
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scotmum
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I have come across a database which seems to have been prepared by a person researching the Fulton name in Tyrone and they have the marriage between Eliza and Andrew as taking place at St Eugenes Church, Ardstraw.
The database can be found:
on the Sheet 1 heading, part way down this google search.
It can be opened with Work Spreadsheet if you don't have Excel.
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STEWART, Lanarkshire, Scotland and Fermanagh/Monaghan border areas, Ireland
LILLEY, County Antrim, Ireland (now NI).
HENDERSON,Lanarkshire,Scotland and probably County Londonderry, Ireland (now NI).
CAPE Cumberland, England & Lanarkshire, Scotland
SCOTT Cumberland, England & Lanarkshire, Scotland
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aghadowey
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That's great scotmum- might even be other Fultons in Kathleen's family listed there.
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kaperc
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Thanks for those links. St Eugene's is the Ardstraw Parish Church. My cousin and fellow researcher posted the Excel files. Believe it or not, we can't link those Fultons to our family - save Eliza and Andrew (we hope). A very kind lady in Ireland went through loads of records while she was doing her own research and pulled anything that might be ours.
That LOVE site is very well written. A friend and possible cousin in Ireland actually mailed his copy of the Abercorn estate records to me to keep as long as I wanted. I was told it's not published in that form anymore and I was terrified something would happen to it! Plus it was contaminated by shipping fumes and I had to de-scent it before I could hold it. Fascinating stuff. I wish I could remember what I read.
I've always tried to keep notes on any people with my surnames in the right area - just in case a link can be made later - my cousin and I have them in a database. I wish we could go back to Ireland with the knowledge we have now and spend a week researching.
Thanks again, everyone.
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England - Todmorden/Burnley: Cooper, Horsfall, Greenwood, Kershaw, Strachan, Hargreaves, Grimley
England - Somerset: Chivers, Lintern, Memory; Tefft
Ireland - Co. Tyrone: McElrea, Fulton, Forsythe
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