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cheshiremog
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If your grandad served in WW1 then it is likely he was alive in 1901 either as a child or a little older.
I have found in 1901
Key Street - Derby-St Pauls
Alfred Berry Head 46 Railway Clerk b. Wilts Plaviston ?
Victoria Berry Wife 47 b. Glos, Thornbury
Frank Berry Son 14 Railway Messenger b. Manchester
Ernest Berry Son 8 b. Derby
The only other Ernest Berry I can see born Derbyshire on the 1901 is living in New Mills Derbyshire, near Manchester
Does this ring any bells ?
I do not think the Ernest Berry died WW2 is yours as the cwgc says he was the son of a family from Glamorgan Wales
Do you know where Ernest was living when he died as I may be able to find the death for you
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Cheshire - TAYLOR, HEAPY, KNOWLES, HAMPSON, CLAYTON, STONIER, PRITCHARD, NADIN, GALLIMORE
Staffs - HEAPY
Devon - CLIFT, VITTERY, TRIST, MOLLOY, COBLEY, LEAR
Devon & Cornwall - CLIFT, LARK
Somerset -Frome -HEAPY
Derbys/Notts- COCKAYNE, PHEASEY, KNOWLES
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cheshiremog
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You could also look for his medal card on the National Archives Website - Medal rolls index - this lists men who served WW1 and were awarded a medal for a campaign they fought in
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/browse-refine.asp?CatID=10&searchType=browserefine&pagenumber=1&query=*&queryType=1
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Cheshire - TAYLOR, HEAPY, KNOWLES, HAMPSON, CLAYTON, STONIER, PRITCHARD, NADIN, GALLIMORE
Staffs - HEAPY
Devon - CLIFT, VITTERY, TRIST, MOLLOY, COBLEY, LEAR
Devon & Cornwall - CLIFT, LARK
Somerset -Frome -HEAPY
Derbys/Notts- COCKAYNE, PHEASEY, KNOWLES
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cheshiremog
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Ancestry lists a number of Ernest Berry's who served WW1
Did he have a middle name that you know of?
Any idea on a rough year of birth ?
Or a rough age when he died ?
Or an occupation ?
Mog
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Cheshire - TAYLOR, HEAPY, KNOWLES, HAMPSON, CLAYTON, STONIER, PRITCHARD, NADIN, GALLIMORE
Staffs - HEAPY
Devon - CLIFT, VITTERY, TRIST, MOLLOY, COBLEY, LEAR
Devon & Cornwall - CLIFT, LARK
Somerset -Frome -HEAPY
Derbys/Notts- COCKAYNE, PHEASEY, KNOWLES
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cheshiremog
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Hi Dean ?
I think this may be your ancestor:-
16651 Ernest Arthur Berry born Stratford Upon Avon, Warwicks about 1893
Enlisted 14th Sep 1914 aged 21 and 3 days (maybe 310 days) at Ilkeston , Derbyshire - (not too far from Heanor, Smalley). Sherwood Forrester, only served for 53 days at home in UK, discharged to pension 5 Nov 1914, as unlikely to become an efficient soldier due to Hysterio ? Epilepsy. Next of Kin - Father- Alfred Berry of 25 Ebenezer Street, Langley Mill (not too far from Heanor or Smalley). Brother - William Alfred Berry of Breach/Breech Road, Langley Mill, - Sister - Alice Berry of Smeaton Road, Langley Mill. Considered unfit for military service within 3 months of enlistment. Church of England, Height 5'9" Chext 36" Weight 143lbs
Hair- Fair- Complexion - Fair.
Please let me know if this rings any bells -especially the next of kin details
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Staffs - HEAPY
Devon - CLIFT, VITTERY, TRIST, MOLLOY, COBLEY, LEAR
Devon & Cornwall - CLIFT, LARK
Somerset -Frome -HEAPY
Derbys/Notts- COCKAYNE, PHEASEY, KNOWLES
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I have now looked for a death between 1942 and 1944
One that seems to fit is Ernest A. Berry died Q 2 - April. May, June 1943 in Coventry aged 50 = born about 1893
Volume 6d Page 680
A death certificate will give cause of death, place of death, who registered the death - which is sometimes a doctor/sometimes a next of kin.
Go onto the GRO website to order one - cost is £7.00
mog
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Staffs - HEAPY
Devon - CLIFT, VITTERY, TRIST, MOLLOY, COBLEY, LEAR
Devon & Cornwall - CLIFT, LARK
Somerset -Frome -HEAPY
Derbys/Notts- COCKAYNE, PHEASEY, KNOWLES
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This may be the family in 1901
Residence- Alciston ? Rd Bridge ? Old Stratford. Warks
Alfred Berry Head 35 Gen Farm Labourer B. Warks, Billesley ?
Mary E Wife 35 b. Warks, Alveston (funny - there is an Alvaston in Derbys)
Ernest A. 8
Alice 14
William 12
Rose 10
Dora 6
Edith 1?
All children born Warks. Alveston ?
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Cheshire - TAYLOR, HEAPY, KNOWLES, HAMPSON, CLAYTON, STONIER, PRITCHARD, NADIN, GALLIMORE
Staffs - HEAPY
Devon - CLIFT, VITTERY, TRIST, MOLLOY, COBLEY, LEAR
Devon & Cornwall - CLIFT, LARK
Somerset -Frome -HEAPY
Derbys/Notts- COCKAYNE, PHEASEY, KNOWLES
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Think the p.o.b. is Alcester Warwicks
Alvaston is an area of Derby
Suz
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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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ernest arthur berry born 1892. he died in coventry about 1943? occupation in 1927 was watchman at artificial silk works.
If Ernest lived in Smalley area in 1827, then he possibly was a nightwatchman at British Celanese Spondon.
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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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cheshiremog
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Hi
Well if Alfred & Victoria are his parents then it must be the family I found on the post above in Derby St Pauls District Keys Street in 1901 which says Ernest was born in Derby.
I did look at deaths from 1942 to 1944 and the record I sent to you above is the only Ernest Berry dying in Coventry. Other Ernest Berry's were mentioned from other districts but they all had different middle names.
I have looked on ancestry WW1 served pension records (which is not complete) and I can not find a Berry with a no.183009 - I also looked at those just named Ernest - (without a middle name) but did not find one to fit.
I have had a quick look at the medal rolls but the men I found with service no 183009 had completely different surnames - not Berry at all.
It would be a good idea to post your questions on the military board on the site - as the military experts may be able to advise you.
mog
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Cheshire - TAYLOR, HEAPY, KNOWLES, HAMPSON, CLAYTON, STONIER, PRITCHARD, NADIN, GALLIMORE
Staffs - HEAPY
Devon - CLIFT, VITTERY, TRIST, MOLLOY, COBLEY, LEAR
Devon & Cornwall - CLIFT, LARK
Somerset -Frome -HEAPY
Derbys/Notts- COCKAYNE, PHEASEY, KNOWLES
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