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Doggy
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Hi
I'm wondering if anyone has access to PR's for Duxford to check if they can find Sophia Ann RUNHAM IN 1856/7. Her parents should be a Smith RUNHAM and Elizabeth BURTON.
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Doggy
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ricky1
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Hi Doggy
carnt help with the PR, but this is on the online cambridge website. Just wondering if this is her reg as Ann Runham
http://www2.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/db/ridbirths.nsf/AllDocs/F403DDEF226747B680256C05004F0499?opendocument
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ricky
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if you ever need BMD for Cambridge there are a lot on here
http://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/community/bmd/camdex
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1861 census has this
Elizabeth Runham head wid 37 worker at papermill Cambs Oakington?
Sarah " dau u/m 13 field worker " Linton
Jane " dau u/m 11 " " "
Stephen " son u/m 8 " " "
Sophia " dau u/m 4 " "
George Smith lodger u/m 28 farm lab Essex Ashdon
living at Burgers? Cottages, Duxford, Cambs
Rg9/ 1028
folio 17
page 27
ricky
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Doggy
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Hi Ricky
Thanks for the link and the census entry (I think I've already got the census - need to check). The Ann entry looks promising unless there is another Ann to be found in 1861?
Cheers again
Doggy
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Hi Doggy
only other one was born 1860 in Chesterton Cambs, and her name is Martha Ann Runham, parents James and Susan, Chesterton is the other side of Cambridge.
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Hi, Doggy -
Just saw your post whilst browsing...
I happen to have the Duxford Parish Records on CD, so had a look for your Runhams. No baptism for Sophia Ann - or even just plain Ann, and no marriage for Smith Runham and Elizabeth Burton. There are lots of Runhams in Duxford, dating right back to the 1500s, but not so many of them in the 1880s.
There's no marriage for Smith Runham in the Cambs Marriage Index either, but that is not exhaustive. I did find an Elizabeth Burton in 1838 in Chatteris Banns - but couldn't match her up with anyone relevant. If the marriage took place in a village not covered by the Marriage Index, then that would make sense.
FreeBMD has the marriage, which I'm sure you already know - qe Sep 1838, N Witchford District - which does in fact include Chatteris along with Manea, Welches Dam etc, so perhaps those Banns did mean something! Though you have to wonder what either of then were doing in the Chatteris area? Work perhaps?
FreeBMD also has Ann Runham registered qe Dec 1856, Linton District, but no Sophia. It would seem that she was registered as just plain Ann, though always called Sophia. Not unusual - it may have been a second name that they decided on after her registration, or just didn't bother putting on the birth cert.
Looking in the census returns, the earliest mention of Smith Runham and Elizabeth is 1841 - Elizabeth Runham is at home with her parents, William and Elizabeth Burton in Oakington. Smith is in Tottenham for some unknown reason - one of three ag labs not born in county who appear to be living with a Thomas Powell or Porrell of independent means.
It looks as if Elizabeth was born in Oakington - from Cambs FHS Baptisms:
1819 BURTON Elizabeth - ----- d. of William & Elizabeth Oakington
which confirms what she says in the census returns.
Also in 1841 in there is a William Runham and his wife Rachel in Sawston, both aged 60 and their son James Runham.
From Boyds:
1802 RUNHAM WM RIGHT RACH BABRAHAM CAMBRIDGESHIRE
The IGI lists the female children of William Runham and a Rachel, but no sons. All baptised in Pampisford between 1811 and 1823.
Better luck on the Cambs FHS Baptisms:
1821 RUNHAM Amabel - ----- d. of William & Rachel Pampisford *
1811 RUNHAM Elizabeth - ----- of William & Rachel Pampisford -
1818 RUNHAM James - ----- s. of William & Rachel Pampisford *
1823 RUNHAM Jane - ----- d. of William & Rachel Pampisford *
1815 RUNHAM Mary - ----- d. of William & Rachel Pampisford *
1813 RUNHAM Sarah - ----- of William & Rachel Pampisford *
1807 RUNHAM Smith - ----- of William & Rachel Pampisford -
1816 RUNHAM Smith - ----- s. of William & Rachel Pampisford *
Pampisford is about a mile from Duxford - and from Sawston - and spitting distance from Babraham, the Abingtons and Linton.
In 1851, William Runham aged 73 is living with Smith and Elizabeth and all their children in Linton. By 1861 Elizabeth is a widow - though I can't find a death for Smith.
So they look like a pretty mobile bunch, but always staying within about a 5 mile radius - other than Smith's jaunt to Tottenham in 1841.
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Willson & Pell in Faversham, Egerton, Folkestone in Kent
Cornhill in Kent, Devon and Wokingham, Berks
Cadmans & Kings in Isleham, Cambs
Swan, Gregory, Smith & Mingay in the Burrough Green/Westley area of Cambs
Armstrong & Chandler in Bedford
Abbott/Abbit in Witham, Essex
Davies/Davis in Islington & Hackney
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Doggy
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Hi wdurham
Sorry for not thanking you earlier for your response but I've been feeling a bit under the weather lately.
Since my posting I contacted Cambs register office who stated that only the mothers name Elizabeth RUNHAM was shown on the certificate and not the father. So I assume it was an illegitimate birth?
I too have no idea what happened to Smith RUNHAM but I suppose it narrows a death down a bit to before 1856.
I'll keep you posted if anything crops up.
Cheers again.
Doggy
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I forgot to mention on my last post that I've just received Sophia Ann's marriage cert. She was married in Sawston 2/4/1877 to Charles MATTHEWS. She states her father was Smith? It classes their ages as "minor", I've not come across this before can somone enlighten me please.
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Doggy
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They were under 21
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Hi, doggy - no worries! Hope you're feeling better now.
Found a transcript of the marriage of Smith Runham and Elizabeth in Cambs marriages on Family History Online:
26 Aug 1838
Groom Smith (x) RUNHAM aged full age condition bac occupation lab residence of Welches Dam
Bride Elizabeth (x) BURTON aged minor condition sp occupation [blank] residence of Welches Dam Licence? by banns
Groom father William – occupation lab
Bride father William – occupation lab
Witnesses James (x) MILLER, Lucy (x) SMART, John CROUCH, – – Notes – Parish Manea, CAM
So they married in Manea, and were both resident in Welches Dam at the time. It looks as if they were both working away from home, as it would be usual for at least one family member to have been amongst the witnesses, espeecially as Elizabeth was under age.
Thus if Ann Runham b about 1857 is the daughter of Elizabeth Runham only, with no father's name on her birth cert, then she might well have been illegitimate, born either (a) outside the marriage or (b) after Smith's death/disappearance.
Interestingly the 1861 census listing for Elizabeth shows her with a boarder named George Smith, aged 27, farm labourer born Ashdon in Essex.
How is the father's name on Sophia's marriage certificate actually written? Could it be that she was the daughter of George SMITH rather than Smith Runham?
There is no death for Smith Runham on FreeBMD, and a check of the Camdex Online index (though not yet complete) shows no death either. Perhaps he just ran off? I have a couple of those in my own family - one ran all the way to Australia!
Perhaps that is the next line of enquiry?
Hope this helps a bit!
Wendy
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Willson & Pell in Faversham, Egerton, Folkestone in Kent
Cornhill in Kent, Devon and Wokingham, Berks
Cadmans & Kings in Isleham, Cambs
Swan, Gregory, Smith & Mingay in the Burrough Green/Westley area of Cambs
Armstrong & Chandler in Bedford
Abbott/Abbit in Witham, Essex
Davies/Davis in Islington & Hackney
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Doggy
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Hi Wendy
Thanks for replying again. I've checked the birth cert and the father is definately Smith RUNHAM as the father. So it looks like I will have to try to track him down. As you say he has probably done a runner!
Really interesting news about Manea and Welches Dam, more wondorous names to read up about. Like you say though, they were probably only there for work.
Cheers again
Dave
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