Author
|
Topic: Lauchlan Carmichael (Read 2826 times)
|
|
|
fhresearcher
RootsChat Extra
Posts: 18
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
In researching Sir Andrew Halliday (1782-1839) and his wife Lady Helen Carmichael d. 31 Oct 1850, it states Lauchlan Carmichael, a chemist living at 13 Carlton St., Edinburgh, as the next of kin and executor of the estate. This was from her will in the Edinburgh Sheriff Court in 1860.
I posted this way back but was not sure if you saw this.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Dumfries: Halliday, Thomson, Boyes, Bell, Laidlaw, Porteous, Young, Manderson, Swan-Lockerbie, Moffat, Thornhill, Castlemilk, Lochmaben
Perth: Stewart, MacNaughtan, McDonald-Aberfeldy, Achnafauld, and Bridge of Tilt, Blair Atholl
Thurso:Manson, Sinclair
Argyll: Taylor-Castle Toward
Glasgow: Telfer, Russell
Cumberland: Hodgson, Bowe, Telfer
North Riding, York: Russell, Robson, Calvert, Simpson
|
|
|
|
|
greater.bilby
RootsChat Extra
Posts: 5
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
Here's the link to the free online search that provides brief details of Queensland Births between 1829 - 1914, and Deaths and Marriages between 1829 and 1929.
https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/BirIndexQry.m
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
greater.bilby
RootsChat Extra
Posts: 5
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
Me again Brian ... I just found the death registration for Lachlan Carmichael's wife Margaret who is mentioned in the thread here previously:-
Here's a copy and paste of the brief result:-
1885/B17852 Carmichael Margaret William Steel - ** born England aged 49 years
She died here somewhere in Queensland (doesn't mention where on the free online search function) in 1885 aged 49 years. Death registration # B17852. The details record William Steel as her father.
Surely this must be the "Lauchlan" Carmichael you were originally looking for back in 2007.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Brian Holcroft
RootsChat Member
Posts: 112
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
Thanks for this posting. Lauchlan carmichael is the 2nd Granduncle of my wife Shirley Carmichael.
He is show living with his widowed mother in the 1851 Census, 21 Salisbury St. Edinburgh, as a Chemist and Drugist.
1861 he is shown living at 9 Calton Street Leith with his wife Margaret (nee Steel) and his son James George Carmichael.
Leith is a part of Edinburgh also called the port of Edinburgh (see Wikepedia).
After this reference I could not find him in the U.K. and it now seems likely that he emigrated.
I know of his parents is this relevant to your research.
Best wishes, Brian.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
greater.bilby
RootsChat Extra
Posts: 5
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
You're welcome Brian.
I just found Lachlan and Margaret's gravesite at Toowong Cemetery here in Brisbane. They're buried together. If you click on "detailed map" option, you can actually see an aerial view of the gravesite.
The link gives their burial dates.
Here's the link:-
https://online.brisbane.qld.gov.au/cemeteries/cemeteries_step3.jsp?mapdisplay=141636
Updating that I found a death registration # B2651 for a James George Carmichael, but don't know if it is Lachlan Carmichael's son because the free registration doesn't list the names of the father or mother.
1865/B2651 Carmichael James George - - ** aged 12 years
I found adds in the Brisbane Courier newspaper from 1866 onwards for Lachlan's chemist shop in Queen Street Brisbane, so they were in Brisbane from at least then on. He also posted an add in Help Wanted for a servant girl to work for "a family of 2" in 1871.
Cheers 
|
|
|
|
« Last Edit: Friday 24 July 09 01:38 UTC (UK) by greater.bilby »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Brian Holcroft
RootsChat Member
Posts: 112
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
Greater Bilby,
I have now confirmed (with your help) that lauchlan Carmichael is the distant relative that I was seeking.
His burial details with his wife and her father's name on the Death Cert., make this conclusive.
I am most grateful.
Brian.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
as29
RootsChat Extra
Posts: 3
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
Hi
I read with interest your posts. I have being trying to find James Carmichael's parentage which has proved difficult, but have picked up some information and thank you. Halliday is also part of the male surnames. I am a direct descendant of Alexander porteous and Andrew Carmichael. I have being doing research originally as there was a family myth that we were related to the Earl of Hyndford, however I have found no evidence of this. I have some information on Andrew Halliday if anybody is interested, let me know.
Alison
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Brian Holcroft
RootsChat Member
Posts: 112
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
Alison,
Alexander Porteous Carmichael (b.1832) and Janet Henderson were my wife's 2X Great Grandparents.
David Henderson Carmichael (b. 1856) and Janet Carmichael were her Great Grandparents.
James Henderson Brown Carmichael was her Grandfather.
Andrew Halliday Carmichael (b. 1909) was her father.
I presume the Andrew Halliday Carmichael, your ancestor, was the son of Alexnder Porteous Carmichael and Margaret Shaw who is shown in 1901 census as a Butcher in Edinburgh.
Re James Carmichael ( Alexander Porteous Carmichael's father) I have his marriage and burial details. I have concluded ( I hope correctly ) that he married twice to Jean home and to Margaret Shaw.
Andrew Halliday Carmichael the son of James Carmichael and Margaret Shaw qualified as a Doctor and died in Ormskirk, Lancashire (1901) aged 77 years.
Re the family rumour of a relationship with the Earl of Hyndford I have no knowledge.
I should be grateful for any information you have on the Carmichael family and trust that you will keep me up to date with any progress.
Thanks,
Brian
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
fhresearcher
RootsChat Extra
Posts: 18
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
Please add info on Andrew Halliday notes. Thanks!
Debbie
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Dumfries: Halliday, Thomson, Boyes, Bell, Laidlaw, Porteous, Young, Manderson, Swan-Lockerbie, Moffat, Thornhill, Castlemilk, Lochmaben
Perth: Stewart, MacNaughtan, McDonald-Aberfeldy, Achnafauld, and Bridge of Tilt, Blair Atholl
Thurso:Manson, Sinclair
Argyll: Taylor-Castle Toward
Glasgow: Telfer, Russell
Cumberland: Hodgson, Bowe, Telfer
North Riding, York: Russell, Robson, Calvert, Simpson
|
|
|
as29
RootsChat Extra
Posts: 3
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
Hi Brian
Thank you for your information. I would be interested in the details of James Carmichael, birth place, death place and his parents etc I have found it very difficult to find.
The information currently I have is:
Alexander Porteous m Janet Henderson, their son
Andrew Halliday Carmichael married Mary Grant Richie, their Son (my great grandparents)
Andrew Halliday Carmichael (b 1897 d 1976) (My grandfather)
I conclude that David Henderson was Andrew's brother? There seems to be quite a few Andrew Hallidays.
Sir Andrew Halliday was always spoken of highly in the family, he bequeathed a sum of money to train my grandfather as a Dr, but unfortunately he couldn't complete his studies due to WW1 - I'm not sure how come this was as Sir Andrew was dead long before he was born. A family member has Sir Andrew's certificates/manuscripts and correspondence he did during his career including some from the king. I am hoping to get more information on the family history I will let you know.
I hope this may be useful information for you. Alison
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
fhresearcher
RootsChat Extra
Posts: 18
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
Dear Alison,
My 4th great grandmother, Elizabeth, was the sister of Sir Andrew Halliday and I am very interested in his life and career. I have been researching him as well as his godson and grand nephew:
Andrew Hallidie Smith later changed his last name to Hallidie (b. 1836 and inventor of the cable car in SF, California)
Some writings mention that Sir Andrew Halliday also gave a sum of money to his godson.
Would you please let your family member know I would be most interested in sharing info.
Debbie
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Dumfries: Halliday, Thomson, Boyes, Bell, Laidlaw, Porteous, Young, Manderson, Swan-Lockerbie, Moffat, Thornhill, Castlemilk, Lochmaben
Perth: Stewart, MacNaughtan, McDonald-Aberfeldy, Achnafauld, and Bridge of Tilt, Blair Atholl
Thurso:Manson, Sinclair
Argyll: Taylor-Castle Toward
Glasgow: Telfer, Russell
Cumberland: Hodgson, Bowe, Telfer
North Riding, York: Russell, Robson, Calvert, Simpson
|
|
|
as29
RootsChat Extra
Posts: 3
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
Dear Debbie
I will see what I can do for you. I had a look at the certificates yesterday, most of which are in Latin. One mentions midwifery. I could see if I could take a photocopy and send you what I have, this I must have agreement from my family member - it may not be possible as of how old they are and whether they could withstand photocopying. I am next week going through a trunk of my grandfather stuff in hope that any correspondence might shed light on the connection. I will let you know if I find out any more information.
I'm wondering if anybody has photograph's of family members as I would be interested.
Thanks. Alison
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Brian Holcroft
RootsChat Member
Posts: 112
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
Alison,
I am very interested in your statement that Sir Andrew Halliday bequeathed a sum of money to train your grandad Andrew Halliday Carmichael as a doctor despite yor father not having been born at the time of this bequest.
Another Andrew Halliday Carmichael (Son of James Carmichael and brother of Alexander Porteous Carmichael and probably a nephew of Sir Andrew halliday b.1824-d.1901) qualified as a Doctor in midwifery, Could this Andrew halliday carmichael be the subject of this bequest.
With regard to James Carmichael of the Tax office I have a lot of information/evidence that I am struggling to resolve.
Please keep me in the loop.
Brian
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
