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Re: Seaman's Orphanage Hull
« Reply #15 on: Friday 16 November 07 09:21 UTC (UK) »

Bee

You are of course correct Smiley

I should have said Hawthorne Street, don't know where I thought of Wheeler St as, as you said, it's off Anlaby Road!

At first I thought that was where the other tram shed was, but that was , I think, next to Liverpool St. Early 40's and my mind's gone already Grin Grin

Ian

My mind obviously has pushed off somewhere else. My mum and dad, who still live in Hull, have just pointed out the tramsheds were next to Haworth Street not Hawthorne! but I always did mix those two up.

On a brighter note, I've just received an excellent e-mail from Hull City Archives. They looked up my Grandad's records and have not only sent me details of him but of his two elder siblings' entry into the orphanage as well. Cheesy Cheesy

As people have already said, they are very helpful and pleasant, a big thank you to them.

Ian
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Re: Seaman's Orphanage Hull
« Reply #16 on: Friday 22 May 09 09:50 UTC (UK) »

Hi I am also researching the records of the Hull Seamens and General Orphanage.  My father was there from 1906 to 1912. Can you assist me in getting started,  I lived in Hull until 1973 so am familar with the location on Spring Bank.  Regards KiwiJane
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Re: Seaman's Orphanage Hull
« Reply #17 on: Friday 22 May 09 10:18 UTC (UK) »

http://www.hullcc.gov.uk/portal/page?_pageid=221,203941&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL


This is a good place to start!
Good Luck!

Carol
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Re: Seaman's Orphanage Hull
« Reply #18 on: Friday 22 May 09 10:52 UTC (UK) »

I forgot to say that I have a book entitled "Postcards Of Hull" by Kennth F. Elsom which has two postcards of "The Sailors' Orphan Homes ...I can scan them and forward to anyone who would like them if you P.M. your email address....One is of the carnival in 1923 the other is undated.. it looks to be taken around 1900-1905
There are currently two volumes for auction on ebay Cheesy
Carol
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Re: Seaman's Orphanage Hull
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 24 May 09 15:56 UTC (UK) »

Hi

I read the posts on the seamans orphanages with interest as my grandfather was listed as being resident at Newlands, along with his 2 brothers, on the 1911 census.

Lizzie W - would you be able to send me copies of the photos that you have of Newlands please? I would be very grateful.

I also wonder if anyone can help me with a bit of a mystery relating to this - my great grandfather was a mariner but I can't find any record of his death but presumably he must have died before 1911. The 3 boys mother (great grandmother) was still alive in 1911 and recorded on the census as being a housekeeper in Goole (where the family had resided previously). Would the boys have been at the orpahange because she couldn't afford to care for them when her husband died?

Also, does anyone know if archives relating to Newlands are at Hull Archives, although I live quite a way from Hull it would be worth the trip if I could find out more about exactly why and when my grandfather was there.

Any help and/or advice very gratefully recieved.

Kim
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Re: Seaman's Orphanage Hull
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 24 May 09 16:00 UTC (UK) »

Hi kim....This site will help...P.m. me if you want the postcard copies.
Good Luck!
Carol

http://www.hullcc.gov.uk/portal/page?_pageid=221,591118&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL
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Re: Seaman's Orphanage Hull
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 24 May 09 17:21 UTC (UK) »

Hi Carol

Thanks very much for sending me the link, really appreciate it.

Kim
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Re: Seaman's Orphanage Hull
« Reply #22 on: Monday 25 May 09 09:39 UTC (UK) »

Hi Kim

Sent you the photos.  Just wanted to say that the staff at Hull Archives are very helpful.

Lizzie
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Re: Seaman's Orphanage Hull
« Reply #23 on: Monday 25 May 09 10:39 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Lizzie, I have got them   Grin  - very much appreciated.

Kim
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Re: Seaman's Orphanage Hull
« Reply #24 on: Monday 25 May 09 20:49 UTC (UK) »

I have been reading these posts with great interest because my friends', father and siblings
were in a seamans orphanage in Hull, probably between August, 1922 and July, 1926.

I get the idea from the posts that there was only  one orphanage but that it's name and location changed, is that right?

Carol, I am particularly interested in  the books that you mention, one of which has the list of children for each year. 

Am I getting the wrong end of the stick from the web site, in thinking that the library is closed while they build a new one?

Thanks,

Elin Smiley



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Re: Seaman's Orphanage Hull
« Reply #25 on: Monday 25 May 09 20:55 UTC (UK) »

Elin

I think there were two orphanages with different names, but someone from Hull will know for sure.

Lizzie
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Re: Seaman's Orphanage Hull
« Reply #26 on: Monday 25 May 09 21:04 UTC (UK) »

Thank you, Lizzie.  I would be grateful if anyone could help. Maybe I misunderstood. Roll Eyes

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Re: Seaman's Orphanage Hull
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 26 May 09 06:34 UTC (UK) »

here you go Elin:

The Sailors’ Families Society (DSSF)
The Port of Hull Society for the Religious Instruction of Sailors, as it was originally known, was founded in 1821. They established their first residential home on Castle Row in 1863. A new home was opened on Park Street in 1867. Eventually the Society purchased some land on Cottingham Road to create a ‘Cottage Home Colony’ known as Newland Homes which opened in 1895. The Society has undergone several name changes over the last two centuries which reflect their varied work with both children and adults who have connections to the sea. It is worth noting that children admitted to the homes came from ports all over the north east coast, not just from Hull.

The records of the Society, including entry and exit documentation relating to the many thousands of children who passed through the homes, are held at Hull City Archives (DSSF).

The Sailors’ Families’ Society (link opens in a new window) still exists. Their work is now confined to supporting families of seafarers within their own homes throughout the United Kingdom.

Seamen’s and General Orphanage (DSHO)
The Hull Seamen’s and General Orphanage opened on Spring Bank in 1866. The orphanage moved to Hesslewood Hall in 1921, on land granted by the Wilson family (of the Ellerman-Wilson Line), and finally closed in 1985. The Sailor’s Orphan Society that ran the homes was founded in 1853. Their records, including entry and exit documentation relating to the children who passed through the homes, are held at Hull City Archives (DSHO).

The Central Library in Hull will have copies of the books: DSHO
Covering dates 1853-1986
Held by Hull City Archives
Conditions of access Open

Creators Hull Seamens and General Orphanage




Contents:
Minute books 1853-1985; General reports by Master to House Committee 1876-1902; Letter books 1864-1934; Annual report, 1854-1960; Administrative papers and correspondence, 1853-1986; Financial records, 1864-1984 including annual accounts 1942-1984; Admission registers, 1866-1983; Register and list of children assisted outside the orphanage 1853-1862, 1914-1923; Election papers 1866-1922; Leavers Register 1867-1985; Papers relating to property and investment, 1885-1985; Material relating to fund raising, 1879-1984




The contents of this catalogue are the copyright of Hull City Archives
Rights in the Access to Archives database are the property of the Crown, © 2001-2009

The records described on this page are held by Hull City Archives


The City Archives are due to re-open in a new building in early September.
Hope this helps Wink


Carol
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Borrill ~ Lincolnshire>Durham>Hull
Groom ~ Wishbech>Hull
Anthony ~ St. John's Nfld.
Bucknall ~ Lincolnshire>Hull
Butt ~ Harbour Grace>Newfoundland
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Re: Seaman's Orphanage Hull
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 26 May 09 09:36 UTC (UK) »

Hi Carol,

Thank you so much for all the trouble that you have gone to, you have clarified it
wonderfully. 

I really appreciate your help.

Elin Smiley
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Re: Seaman's Orphanage Hull
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 26 May 09 09:56 UTC (UK) »

Hi Elin,
My pleasure Cheesy....I will go through my books on the history of Hull and if I find any more photos or information I will email it to you.
Good Luck!
Carol
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Kirk ~ Leeds, Hull
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Broughton ~ Leicester>Goole>Hull
Borrill ~ Lincolnshire>Durham>Hull
Groom ~ Wishbech>Hull
Anthony ~ St. John's Nfld.
Bucknall ~ Lincolnshire>Hull
Butt ~ Harbour Grace>Newfoundland
Parsons ~ Western Bay>Newfoundland
Monaghan ~ Ireland>U.S.A.
Perry ~ Cheshire>Liverpool>Hull

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