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JenClark
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Hi all,
Was hoping someone may be able to look up a fellow called Samuel Courtnall in the 1861 census, I think he will be in the London or Surrey area. I do not have a date of birth but think he may be married and died as follows:
Marriage
Dec Q 1860 Marylebone
Samuel Courtnall and either Phoebe Lancefield or Maria Mason
Death
Dec Q 1862 Islington
Samuel Courtnell (no age)
Any help would be great in locating this fellow, am particularly interested in Phoebe Lancefield too.
Thanks 
Jenny
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Iria
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Hi
1861 Census shows as Follows
48 Charlotte St Isllington Middlesex
Samuel Courtnal Head M 68 Retired Wheelwright b Essex
Pheobe Courtnal Wife Mar 56 Mangler b Norfolk
Hope this helps in some way
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Iria
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JenClark
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Thanks Iria,
That looks good.....It seems he did marry Phoebe Lancefield in 1860. She was previously married as follows:
Sept Q 1853
John Lancefield and Phoebe Compton
Could you possibly check the 1851 census for either of these people....I would be so grateful. This is a puzzle that is getting more complicated by the minute 
Assuming Phoebe was born abt 1805 in Norfolk somewhere....John Lancefield may be born abt 1784 I think (if he is the bloke I think he is!!)
Thanks so much 
Jenny
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Iria
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Hi Jenny
1851 Census Shows as Follows
20 Mortmer Street St Marylebone Middlesex
Eliza Stewart Head Mar 57 Wife Of Dentist b Dorset Poole
Peter Dowle Apprentice 18 Apprentice to Dentist b Hants
Phoebe Compton Servant Wid 46 House Serv b Nolfolk Pulham?
Also at no 20
Ann Ashdown Head Um 35 Fancy Uphosterer b Plumstead Kent
Angleine Compton un 16 House Serv b St Pancras
Could Angleline be Phoebe's Daughter?
Hope this helps in some way
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Iria
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JenClark
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Oh my, I wonder how many times she married!! This gives me more to chew on at least 
Thanks so much!
Jenny
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Iria
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Hi Jenny
Carn't Seem to find John Lancefield b 1784 .. the Only Two i Could Find is One Born 1776 Lambeth Surrey and the Other Born 1820 Canterbury Kent
If you need the Details of either one Just Let me know
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Iria
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JenClark
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Hi Iria,
John Lancefield was a mariner, so knowing my luck he was on the high seas during census time I have never found him in 1841 or 1851 I suspect that he died in 1855, so no hope on later census returns. Could you possibly give me the details of the 1776 one in Lambeth just in case though?
Thanks again
Jenny
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Iria
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Hi Jenny
I found Pheobe Compton in the 1841 Census
4 Cleaver Street Lambeth Kennington Surrey
John Compton 50 Mill Maker Yes
Pheobe Compton 40 No
Angelina Compton 6 No
Hope this helps in some way
Regards
Iria
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JenClark
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That's great
Now to find her maiden name......
Jenny
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Iria
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Hi Jenny
5 Wanel Rd??? Lambeth Kennington Surrey
John Lancefield Head Wid 75 Carpenter (unreadble) b Kent Ash
Hope this helps
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Iria
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Iria
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Hi Jenny
Could this be John Lancesfield on the 1841 Census?
Tichester Place Ramsgate Kent
John Lancefield 56 Fisherman No
Mary Lancefield 44 No
Samuel Lancefield 4 No
Sarah Lancefield 2 No
Hope this helps in some way
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Iria
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JenClark
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Thanks for the info, I have so many John Lancefield's bobbing around that I get myself confused at the best of times. A relative and I are trying to sort them all out
As far as I can tell my John Lancefield was born approx 1784 and married an Elizabeth (?) and had 3 daughters, Frances b. 1814 Southwark, Elizabeth Esther b. 1817 St Olave d. 1821 and Eliza b. 1821 St John Horsleydown, London.
He may have remarried a Mary I suppose but I have no deaths for either John (except my suspect 1855) or Elizabeth. I have a remarriage for a John Lancefield widower in 1838 to Eliza Clayton at St Olave, and I suspect this is him so if you find a John and Eliza in 1841 please let me know as I would be so greatful! Lancefield is terribly transcribed though, I have seen it as Lanafield, Lansfield, Lanefield and many others..
Thanks again
Jenny
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