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dutch missmarple
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Census lookup please 1871
« on: Monday 27 December 04 15:56 UTC (UK) »

Hi, looking for Lizzie Mirenda Georgiana Juffs in the 1871 census. She was born about 1864 Woburn Sands Bedfordshire. Father George, mother ..? Found her in the 1881 census. She was a governess living in Chiddingstone Kent. She married someone Nelthropp between 1892 and 1900. Can anyone lookup this marriage please? Don't know when she became a widow. But she married my greatgrandfather Albert Thomas Wilson in Strood Kent in 1912.
Thank you for your time.
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Wilson: Writtle Essex, shorne Kent.
Windley: Woodford Essex, Chigwell Essex, Blackmore Essex.
Halls: Chigwell and Woodford, Essex
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Re: Census lookup please 1871
« Reply #1 on: Monday 27 December 04 20:31 UTC (UK) »

Hi

No look with her in 1871, maybe she was in a county that hasn't yet been transcribed.  But, here she is in 1891


St Pauls, Deptford, London

Lizzie M G Juffs, Servant, Single, 27, Lady Help Domestic, born Woburn Sands, Bedford

She was living in the household of Augustus W Collier
and his niece and nephew

Let me know if you want the image

Her marriage is on freebmd

Marriages Jun 1898
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JUFFS  Lizzie Mirenda G    Camberwell  1d 1750   
Nelthropp  William Tell     Camberwell  1d 1750   


And could this be William's death?  Also from frebmd

Deaths Jun 1907
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NELTHROPP  William Tell  69  Camberwell  1d 496

Hmm, just found William & LIzzie on the 1901 census, in Camberwell, so looks like that is his death

38 Harders Road

William Tell Neltropp, Head, Married, 63, Stationer, London, Southwark
Lizzie M G Nelthropp, Wife, Married, 38, Born Woburn Bedfordshire
Elizabeth Nelthropp, Dau, Single, 22, London, Peckham

Obviously his daughter from an earlier marriage

Just had a brainstrom, and guess what found, here in 1871, mistranscribed as Lizzie M G Tuffs!!

Here they are in Newport Pagnell, Buckinghamshire

At the moment, it's not linking to the image, but these are the family members

George Juffs, Age 31, born Bedfordshire
Mary Juffs, Age 32, born Bedfordshire
Lizzie M G Juffs, Age 7, born Buckinghamshire
Walter H Juffs, Age 5, born Buckinghamshrie
Arthur H Juffs, AGe 4, born Buckinghamshire
Ernest A Juffs, Age 1, born Buckinghamshire


Let me know if you want copies of the images (assuming I can get the 1871 one to work that is) - from this you should also be able to find George and his family in the 1881 census

Good luck

Carol
Hull, East Yorks

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GREEN, HOBSON, WILLOUGHBY, FARROW - Hull East Yorks
SAYERS, DOBNEY, GRANT, CROFT, HARE - Lincs
SINGLETON, FOGG, BROCKLEBANK - Lancashire
SINGLETON - Cumberland
PAGAN, GRAY, CALDWELL, NAISMITH - Scotland
CHEESMAN, WHITE, WATTS, GAINS, - Hampshire/Surrey
NASH, BULLMAN, PATE, LOFTUS/LOFFEST - London
HOSTY - Ireland to Chicago to Durham
dutch missmarple
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Re: Census lookup please 1871
« Reply #2 on: Monday 27 December 04 20:45 UTC (UK) »

Hi Carol,

thanks a bunch for all these new details! great! I didn't know that Mr. Nelthropp had been married before..(William Tell? My God, some people really do have a strange sense of humor). I did know however that Lizzie was a widow when she married my grgrandfather. She was his 3rd (!) wife.
I would be very gratefull for any images you can send me. I will send you my emailladdress via pm.
Thanks for the info.
regards
dutch missmarple
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Wilson: Writtle Essex, shorne Kent.
Windley: Woodford Essex, Chigwell Essex, Blackmore Essex.
Halls: Chigwell and Woodford, Essex
Carolann
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Re: Census lookup please 1871
« Reply #3 on: Monday 27 December 04 20:48 UTC (UK) »

Yes, strange what names people land their poor kids with!!

Cheers

Carol
Hull, East Yorkshire
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GREEN, HOBSON, WILLOUGHBY, FARROW - Hull East Yorks
SAYERS, DOBNEY, GRANT, CROFT, HARE - Lincs
SINGLETON, FOGG, BROCKLEBANK - Lancashire
SINGLETON - Cumberland
PAGAN, GRAY, CALDWELL, NAISMITH - Scotland
CHEESMAN, WHITE, WATTS, GAINS, - Hampshire/Surrey
NASH, BULLMAN, PATE, LOFTUS/LOFFEST - London
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dutch missmarple
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Re: Census lookup please 1871
« Reply #4 on: Monday 27 December 04 22:09 UTC (UK) »

Hi Carol,
Thanks that would be great!
Could you please lookup William Tell Nelthropp for me as well? Census 1871.
Married to Lydia J. (in 1868).
Tata.
dutch missmarple
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Wilson: Writtle Essex, shorne Kent.
Windley: Woodford Essex, Chigwell Essex, Blackmore Essex.
Halls: Chigwell and Woodford, Essex
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Re: Census lookup please 1871
« Reply #5 on: Monday 27 December 04 22:59 UTC (UK) »

Nelthropp, William Tell 1868 March St George Southwark London Surrey 1d 142 
Noble, Lydia Julia 1868 March St George Southwark London Surrey 1d 142


Name:    Nelthropp, William Tell
Record Type:    Births
Quarter:    September
Year:    1873
District:    Greenwich 
County:    Greater London Kent London Surrey
Volume:    1d
Page:    812 

Name:    Nelthropp, William Tell
Record Type:    Marriages
Quarter:    June
Year:    1898
District:    Camberwell (1837-1919) 
County:    London Surrey
Volume:    1d
Page:    1750

Nelthropp, William Tell 1898 June Camberwell (1837-1919) London Surrey 1d 1750 
Stennett, Emma 1898 June Camberwell (1837-1919) London Surrey 1d 1750


Nelthropp, William Tell 1898 June Camberwell (1837-1919) London Surrey 1d 1759 
Thomas, Ethel Mary 1898 June Greenwich Greater London Kent London Surrey 1d 1759

Name:    William T. Nelthropp
Age in 1881:    43 
Estimated birth year:    abt 1838 
Relationship to head-of-household:    Head 

Gender:    Male 
Where born:    Southwark, Surrey, England
Address:    7 Harders Rd Rutland Cot 
Civil parish:    Camberwell 
County/Island:    London 
Condition as to marriage:    Married 
Occupation:    Stationers Manager 


Source information:    RG11/0682 
Registration district:    Camberwell 
Sub-registration district:    Peckham 
ED, institution, or vessel:    10 
Folio:    68 
Page:    10

Elizth. A. Nelthropp abt 1879  Peckham, Surrey, England Daughter  Camberwell   
Jane Nelthropp abt 1875  Deptford, Kent, England Daughter  Camberwell   
Lydia Jul. Nelthropp abt 1840  Lambeth, Surrey, England Wife  Camberwell   
William R. Nelthropp abt 1872  Deptford, Kent, England Son  Camberwell   
William T. Nelthropp abt 1838  Southwark, Surrey, England Head  Camberwell   
John Noble abt 1812  Scotland Unknown 


all references to William Tell Nelthropp...
will add more if I find them

Best Wishes and Happy New Year

Mo

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Re: Census lookup please 1871
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 29 December 04 19:13 UTC (UK) »

Hi

Unable to find William on either the 1871 or the 1891 census - I suspect he may be mistranscribed somewhere.

Still haven't been able to download the image for Lizzie in 1871, will try again at the weekend.

All best

Carol
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SAYERS, DOBNEY, GRANT, CROFT, HARE - Lincs
SINGLETON, FOGG, BROCKLEBANK - Lancashire
SINGLETON - Cumberland
PAGAN, GRAY, CALDWELL, NAISMITH - Scotland
CHEESMAN, WHITE, WATTS, GAINS, - Hampshire/Surrey
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dutch missmarple
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Re: Census lookup please 1871
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 30 December 04 18:18 UTC (UK) »

Hi Mo and Carol,
thanks both!
Happy New Year!
dutch mismarple
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Wilson: Writtle Essex, shorne Kent.
Windley: Woodford Essex, Chigwell Essex, Blackmore Essex.
Halls: Chigwell and Woodford, Essex
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