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Topic: Marriage Look-ups in Ontario - JOHNS(T)ON COMPLETED (Read 412 times)
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SC
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I am trying to find a couple of marriages
(1) marriage for Donald Johns(t)on and Isabella Currie around 1870 in either Simcoe or Victoria County - Donald's father was a Donald, farmer, born Scotland, Isabella's is not known
(2) marriage for James D Little and Mary Alice Gilroy? (spelling uncertain) about 1901/2 probably in Simcoe County - James father was Walter, both he and James were born in Scotland
Thank you SC
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eillo
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Sarah Page born Chilham Kent 1836 who are parents?
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I wish I'd known when Isabella was born. I couldn't find her in marriages on the Ontario Vital Stats Project or in Ancestry's marriages.
I did find deaths for Isabella Johnson in Simcoe Co and perhaps one was yours - and depending when she died her father's name might be there
In any case, I did find James and Mary on Ancestry - they married 23 Dec 1902 in Wellington County
James was born Dumfries Scotland to Walter Little and Christina Farish. James was living in Van Vlack (which was near me in Simcoe County) at the time of marriage, Mary was living in Elora (which is near Guelph)
Mary (Mary A. Gillrie) was born in Peel Township to Henry W. Gillrie and Annie Green
You can try the Ontario Vital Stats Project at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~maryc/clifford.htm but I couldn't spot their marriage there
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KENT: Fuller, Simpson, Stead, Caspall, Norris, Philpott, Elvery DEVON: Williams, Caspall SUSSEX: Simpson YORKSHIRE: Dewhirst/Dewhurst, Wormald, Hill, Schulze CANADA: McGinnis, Peer, Vollick and more Websites: AllEnglishRecords.comAllCensusRecords.com |
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SC
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Hi eillo
Thanks a lot for the marriage for James Little and Mary - very helpful
As for Donald Johns(t)on and Isabella Currie, I couldn't find them on Vital Stats either and have also checked a few reels of microfilm so far unsuccessfully
Their first child was Christi(a)na (named after Donald's mother) born 1870-71, birth not yet found
(there were 8 children altogether born between 1870 and 1890)
Isabella I believe died in Feb 1897 - there are 2 deaths on the same day in Simcoe County and I think the correct one is age 45 yrs 11 mon in Nottawasaga which is where they were, puts her born about Mar 1851 in Victoria Co - she died of TB as did a son in 1901 so it's very possible - and also consistent with census age of 30 in 1881. I have not located them in 1871 yet
It is possible that the Currie family could have moved to Simcoe Co so the marriage could be in either County
The other Isabella death is in Collingwood and age 48
Any help from anyone would be much appreciated
Thanks SC
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waiteohman
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Hello SC
Looking at the Simcoe County Settler's Database there is a Donald Johnston Sr and Jr both in Simcoe County, Oro Township. Information sources are 1861 Census and Knox Presbyterian Church records. Senior born 1801 and Junior 1841. Does this match your names?
Settler's Database
http://www.simcoebogs.com/database/settlersdata_list.php
Burials will be found in the Knox Presbyterian New Cemeteries. The old and new Knox Presbyterian Cemeteries are at the junction of the 9th Concession Line. The tract for the church and cemetery was set aside by the first settlers, mostly built in 1845 and closed in 1900. All services were held in Gaelic.
http://webhome.idirect.com/~griffish/gene/cem/ohs1.html
Donald Sr and Jr both have same grave reference # LDS971.317V3m There are a number of other Johnston s with this grave reference #. There is also an Isabella Johnston (Butler); however she is buried Knox Presbyterian (Mitchell) in Perth County, Logan Township where other Johnstons are also buried (related?? Is Isabella nee Butler?? buried with children?? elsewhere).
http://www.islandnet.com/cgi-bin/ms2/jveinot/search
Cemetery transcripts are available for Knox Presbyterian Cemetery from Simcoe County genealogy website and can hopefully prove to be yours. Maybe another rootschatter has access to them and can check for you, otherwise they are available for sale:
http://www.simcoebogs.com/Publications/pu_cemetery.htm
From Ontario Genealogical Society Provincial Index - 1861 census @ca.on.387 page 047 you will find the two Donalds.
http://ogs.on.ca/ogspi/6/o3870004.htm
Sadly the 1851 census for Simcoe County is missing.
Linda
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SC
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Hi Linda
Thanks for all the hard work but unfortunately the Johnsons you found are not the same family as the ones I am researching - there may be a distant connection as most of them seem to have come from Argyll, Scotland which is where I think mine came from but I haven't yet proved it - he does not seem to be one of the first settlers however
The family must have emigrated between 1834 and 1837
I have Donald, 67, Scotland, wife Christy, 59, Scotland, Angus, 27, Scotland, Ann, 24, Ontario, and Donald 21, Ontario, in Simcoe Co in Nottawasaga in 1861 census on page 69
there is possibly another son John age 31 on page 71 - married to an Emily age 30 born England (marr not yet found) and 4 children all born Canada - C (Christina), 7, Ann, 5, Daniel, 3, and W T (William),1, - so I need a marriage about 1852
also an Alexander and wife Effie, both 37 b Scotland with children Ann, 12, and Isabella, 7, both b Scotland and Alexander, 4, and Ronald, 2, both born Canada - on page 66 who is a possible connection - they are the only Johns(t)ons in Nottawasaga in 1861
Donald jr definitely married an Isabella Currie and not a Butler
I believe the cemetery that I need to consult is Stayner Union where at least a few of them are buried but to purchase the transcriptions is rather expensive so we'll just have to take a trip up there in the spring!!!
Thanks SC
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waiteohman
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Hi SC
See yours on the 1861 now. Maybe a fellow rootschatter has the MI transcripts or has access via their local library. You might want to post a separate request.
National Library of Canada has these publications and you could request a loan via your public library, or maybe they are available at your local library:
West Nottawasaga Presbyterian Church.
by Ontario Genealogical Society. Simcoe County Branch.
Type: Book
Language: English
Publisher: [Barrie, Ont. : Ontario Genealogical Society, Simcoe County Branch, 1982?]
ISBN: 1550342282 9781550342284
OCLC: 25713501
Related Subjects: West Nottawasaga (Presbyterian) Cemetery (Nottawasaga, Ont.) | Nottawasaga (Ont.) -- Genealogy. | Registers of births, etc. -- Ontario -- Nottawasaga. | More Subjects ...
East Nottawasaga Presbyterian Church, lot 20, concession 4, Township of Nottawasaga, Simcoe County.
by Ontario Genealogical Society. Simcoe County Branch.
Type: Book
Language: English
Publisher: [Barrie, Ont. : Ontario Genealogical Society, Simcoe County Branch, 1982?]
ISBN: 1550342258 9781550342253
OCLC: 25713506
Related Subjects: East Nottawasaga Presbyterian Cemetery (Nottawasaga, Ont.) | Nottawasaga (Ont.) -- Genealogy. | Registers of births, etc. -- Ontario -- Nottawasaga. | More Subjects ...
The Brethren in Christ Church Cemetery, lot 26, concession 6, Township of Nottawasaga, County of Simcoe, Ontario
by Ontario Genealogical Society. Simcoe County Branch.
Type: Book
Language: English
Publisher: Barrie, Ont. : Simcoe County Branch, Ontario Genealogical Society, [1982?]
ISBN: 1550342231 9781550342239
OCLC: 25713511
Related Subjects: Brethren in Christ Church Cemetery (Nottawasaga, Ont.) | Nottawasaga (Ont.) -- Genealogy. | Registers of births, etc. -- Ontario -- Nottawasaga. | More Subjects ...
People of Simcoe County, Ontario : birth, death, and marriage notices--early to 1971
by Faye B Geddes; Zelma Fannie Johnson Cox
Type: Book
Language: English
Publisher: Lethbridge, Alta. : Ancestor Answers, 1998.
ISBN: 1894215028 9781894215022
OCLC: 43662317
Related Subjects: Registers of births, etc. -- Ontario -- Simcoe (County) | Simcoe (Ont. : County) -- Genealogy. | Registres de l'état civil -- Ontario -- Simcoe (Comté) | Simcoe (Ont. : Comté) -- Généalogies.
As you mention Stayner burials, this might be an interesting read. Your local library, could try and locate if for you:
The story of Stayner : 1867-1967.
by Stayner Centennial Historical Committee.
Type: Book
Language: English
Publisher: [s.l. : s.n., 1968?]
OCLC: 62955521
Related Subjects: Stayner (Ont.) -- History. | Nottawasaga (Ont.) -- History. | Simcoe (Ont. : County) -- History.
Linda
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SC
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Hi again Linda
Thanks so much for your quick response with all this info on cemeteries - we will most certainly be following this up and hi-tailing it to our library to see what they can do in the way of inter-library loans. This is extremely helpful and very much appreciated
Thanks again SC
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Janice M
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A very good site to try is Paper of Record. It has newspapers from Simcoe County that you can check for marriages, births, deaths, etc.
(It's free to join, search and download)
http://www.paperofrecord.com/
Janice
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Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Lanxon, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie
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SC
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Hi Janice
Thanks for the ref - unfortunately it didn't yield anything so I keep on plugging away, the marriage has to be somewhere!!!
Thanks SC
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Janice M
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When searching Paper of Record, remember that it is only searching a few of the years at a time. You have to keep modifying to allow it to search the rest.
Janice
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Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Lanxon, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie
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waiteohman
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Hello
You may find your later people in the 'Stayner Sun' which began publication with Aug. 28, 1877 or 'The Watchman and County of Victoria recorder' published from 1888-Jan 1899. Maybe some of their children's births/marriages or their obits.
National Library has the Stayner Sun; however, no loans of the reels. Ontario Archives Library and I believe also Trent University Library have The Watchman ... Another outing plan perhaps 
I did not find my rellies in the Simcoe Reformer either. They are found in newspapers local to their area in Simcoe Co.
Linda
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SC
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Hi to all who have helped in any way in this marriage search for Donald and Isabella
Eventually it will show up but for now I will close this thread and repost it if necessary after we have done further checking
Thanks SC
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J.J.
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No need to repost, if it involves the same query... just post new message on this thread and those who have contributed will be notified....J.J.
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J.J.
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ahah... I found the post you spoke of...I'll check to see if anyone can find them now that there is more available information
Lots of cem transcripts here...
http://www.geocities.com/tgilhuly/cemets.html
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J.J.
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Here is an Isabella currie...not sure if you've seen her to rule her out...
in 1861, a Margaret I believe, marked as single? with twins "Christiana"  and "Isabella" and then a Mary
Simcoe / Nottawasaga Twp / Sub-District No: 385
http://ontariocensus.rootsweb.ancestry.com/transcripts/1861/3113-9.html
Hard to say if this Margaret belongs to previous or following list of Curry housholds Perhaps if it ever proves correct the cem transcripts might sort out the relationships...
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