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Rosalie Mathilda Jönsson 1916-1999
Re: elizabeth woolman
« Reply #15 on: Friday 16 November 07 00:57 UTC (UK) »
1841 HO107/596/20 fol.6 p.4
St. George's Chapelry, Thringstone
William MIRRIMAN 35 Farmer
Hannah      "         25
Hannah      "          4
William         "         2
Mary           "         1
Elizabeth Lacy    17  F.S.
Benjamin Hicknery? 18 M.S.
all born in county

1851 HO107/2085 fol. 468 p.36
Finney Hill Lodge, Sheepshed
William N Bramley head Widr 67 Farmer of 190 acres employing 5 Labourers  Leics Gracedieu
George Bramley  son u 27 Farmers Son  Leics Sheeshead
Jane          "        dau u 25     "        Dau     "             "
William Merriman g.son 12                         "    Thringstone
Mary A      "         g.dau  10                         "              "
+ 2 farm servants


Quite possible this William is father of John, but birth cert would be best

Hope this helps,
Barbara
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« Reply #16 on: Friday 16 November 07 14:54 UTC (UK) »
 Smiley ;)Hi barbara
thanks very much i will have a look at it later on to see if they are the right ones .barbara when you have a minute can you do me another favour please can you have a look for john henry freer and his daughter fanny .
john was from sheepshed she was from sneiton nottingham they are my dads relations as well fanny married a john ernest woolman in 1911 junethe 5th
many thanks
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Re: elizabeth woolman
« Reply #17 on: Friday 16 November 07 15:02 UTC (UK) »
from what i can gather is they moved in with john in hugglescote coalville No 70 ash burton rd but it doesn't exist any more its an old peoples home i have a death for ernest  nov 1943 3rd john was born ngtoni have a deth for john henry freer march 20th 1942 age 59 and a death for fanny 12th june 1969 aged 82
thanks barbara
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Re: elizabeth woolman
« Reply #18 on: Friday 16 November 07 15:25 UTC (UK) »
These dates don't add up!

If Fanny died 1969 aged 82 she was born 1887
If John Henry, her father, died 1942 aged 59 he was born 1883

Fanny married Ernest John Woolman 1911, do you have the marriage cert, giving her age, and her father's occupation?

There's this couple in 1881 who may be husband and wife as stated or father & daughter  Huh:
1881 RG11/3336 fol.105 p.64
3 Paradise Row, Arnold, Nottingham
John Freer head mar 60 Frame W.K.  Leics Sheepshed   (frame work knitter)
Fanny  "    wife   mar 16 Learner        Notts Sneinton
Henry   "   son           13 Scholar            "          "

Will check them in other census!
Barbara
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Re: elizabeth woolman
« Reply #19 on: Friday 16 November 07 15:35 UTC (UK) »
Think that was Fanny the daughter on 1881 wrongly entered as wife.

Here's 1871 which clarifies that:
Holly Gardens, Thorneywood Lane, Snenton
RG10/3505 fol.121 p.16
John    Freer  head m 50 Framework Knitter  Leics Sheepshed
Charlotte "     wife  m 40 Lace Clipper               "    Loughborough
Fanny      "     dau        7 Scholar                   Notts Snenton
John H     "     son        3                                    "        "

Now to find Fanny in 1891/1901

Barbara
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Re: elizabeth woolman
« Reply #20 on: Friday 16 November 07 15:52 UTC (UK) »
Here's 1891:

RG12/2705 fol.140 p.24
30 Blake St, Snenton
Henry Freer head m 23 Framework Knitter 
Sarah A   "   wife  m  19
Arthur     "    son        9 months
John        "  father Widr 70 Framework Knitter
all born Nottingham

Can't see Fanny - do you think she was married before she married Woolman?  Do you have the marriage cert which should show that?

Barbara
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Re: elizabeth woolman
« Reply #21 on: Friday 16 November 07 16:47 UTC (UK) »
 Smiley ;)Hi barbara
thanks for that i didn't expect it that quick
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Re: elizabeth woolman
« Reply #22 on: Friday 16 November 07 16:53 UTC (UK) »
 Smiley Wink
I only have the one were she john so no i dont have any more i didnt even know she had married before john i know she was in nottingham but thats all you have surprised tonight well done i will have to look into that next time i go to my local libary enless that have it at the record office which i will try
thanks barbara
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Re: elizabeth woolman
« Reply #23 on: Friday 16 November 07 17:07 UTC (UK) »
 Smiley ;)thats the the one that i have about fanny that she was buried 12th of june 1969 which i had from my libary off of the plastic cards.
i have something else i didn't know i had fannywas amother .w. 72 f quorndon leic groom domestic servant nottingham 1275.77 private house .chapel street 1871 census-alpha order .
1871 grocers shop .barrow street .catherineand then its the same as the top one so may be she was married before
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Re: elizabeth woolman
« Reply #24 on: Friday 16 November 07 17:10 UTC (UK) »
 Smiley Wink i will come back to you iam just going to have a look at this private house chapel street
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Re: elizabeth woolman
« Reply #25 on: Friday 16 November 07 17:22 UTC (UK) »
 Smiley ;)barbara it says a george wm d so i dn't know what that means
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Re: elizabeth woolman
« Reply #26 on: Friday 16 November 07 17:35 UTC (UK) »
 Smiley ;)fannys father was a quarryman johns dad was tom woolman deceaded farm labouer
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Re: elizabeth woolman
« Reply #27 on: Friday 16 November 07 19:24 UTC (UK) »
Now you've lost me completely.  I didn't say Fanny had definitely married before, just thought she may have as I couldn't find her in 1891 and she didn't marry Woolman til 1911

Start again, do you have Fanny Freer and Ernest John Woolman's marriage certificate? and if you do, please can you put exactly what it says.

Quote from: Danone on Friday 16 November 07 14:54 UTC (UK)
please can you have a look for john henry freer and his daughter fanny .john was from sheepshed she was from sneiton nottingham fanny married a john ernest woolman in 1911 junethe 5th


Don't understand this, at all, sorry.
Quote from: Danone on Friday 16 November 07 17:07 UTC (UK)
i have something else i didn't know i had fannywas amother .w. 72 f quorndon leic groom domestic servant nottingham 1275.77 private house .chapel street 1871 census-alpha order .
1871 grocers shop .barrow street .catherineand then its the same as the top one so may be she was married before

Can you make it a bit clearer please, are you saying Fanny was a mother, is Catherine the daughter and are they 1871 census references?

Quote from: Danone on Friday 16 November 07 17:22 UTC (UK)
it says a george wm d so i dn't know what that means

What says a George William?  I don't know what that means either  Undecided

Barbara   Smiley
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Re: elizabeth woolman
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 18 November 07 11:23 UTC (UK) »
 Smiley ;)hi barbara
sorry i have been ill for two days so been in bed thats all that i can give you about her so she was either in boarding or she was married so i don't know much more
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Re: elizabeth woolman
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 18 November 07 13:26 UTC (UK) »
Hi Danone,

Sorry to hear you've been ill.

Now that you're back on rootschat, please could you try to answer the questions I put in my last post and I'll try to help you further.

Kind regards, Barbara
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