BettyofKent
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There are two LANGRIDGE couples in Barming having children Baptised.
This might be of interest:
20th Feb 1842 Harriet daughter of James & Mary Ann.
James was a Labourer.
Plenty of Smiths, of course, but only one Harriet & that was in 1780.
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Well done Betty - that looks interesting 
1841 Hill House Corner, Barming, Kent
James LANGRIDGE 28 lab b.Kent
Mary 20 b.Kent
Matilda 2 b.Kent
HO107/456 folio 5 page 2
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They are next door to a CROUCH family and I will post them (just in case it's relevant) because I looked for this Matilda later on to see if she had a sister Harriett and found a Matilda later on of the correct age born Barming with a CROUCH connection.
Thomas CROUCH 40 lab b.Kent
Rebecca 40 b.Kent
Jane 75 b.Kent
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Am wondering if this is Harriett with her mother remarried to a William SAMUELS 
1851
3 Bunyard's Yard, Maidstone, Kent
William SAMUELS head mar 49 tailor b.Scotland
Mary wife 33 tailor's wife b.Barming Kent
Harriett dau 8 b.Barming
Thomas son 5 b.Barming
John son 3 b.East Farleigh
Charles son (?) months b.Maidstone
HO107/1617 folio 191 page 15
There is a marriage William SAMUEL(S) to Mary Ann LANGRIDGE in the Maidstone area 1845 http://extranet3.kent.gov.uk/sp/rois/marriagesearch.cfm# and http://freebmd.rootsweb.com
1861
William SAMUELS head mar 58 tailor b.Edinburgh Scotland
Mary Ann wife 42 b.Barming
Thomas son 15 b.Barming
John son 12 b.Maidstone
Charles son 10 b.Maidstone
William son 7 b.West Malling
Elizabeth dau 5 b.West Malling
George son 2 b.West Malling
RG9/485 folio 21 page 36
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BettyofKent
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There's definitely a CROUCH connection, with a slight variation in spelling.
I saw the name when I was looking for Harriet's Baptism.
21st Apr 1844 James son of James & Mary Ann LANGRIDGE
23rd Dec 1838 Matilda Dau of James & Mary Ann Croutch LANGRIDGE
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 Thankyou so much everybody who helped gather information on this as it really has given me some completely new areas to explore. I'll start searching out some of the necessary certificates which is probably where I should have started anyway (sorry I'm a bit new to this genealogy lark). Thanks also for clearing up the parish church confusion (even with the web I still find it hard to get useful maps/parish boundaries info from this side of the world and I'm afraid I haven't yet had the pleasure of visiting Kent myself!). Thanks again it's all much appreciated.
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I started out searching for the parents of an ancestor Harriet Langridge and didn't make much progress although I received a lot of new information about Harriet herself. Through rootschat I have found out that Harriet was born in the village of Barming, Kent and this has led me to a potential breakthrough. The 1841 census for Barming shows that a James and Mary Langridge (the name of Harriet's parents in all the sources we have) were living there with a daughter named Matilda age 2. Is there anyone out there who can help me make the link between this couple and my Harriet? Harriet would have been born about 1843
if our family records are correct which means Matilda (if she survived) would be her older sister. Any help would be appreciated .
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Hi Dane
Is there anyone out there who can help me make the link between this couple and my Harriet? Harriet would have been born about 1843
I'm not quite sure what you mean?
There are two LANGRIDGE couples in Barming having children Baptised.
This might be of interest:
20th Feb 1842 Harriet daughter of James & Mary Ann.
James was a Labourer
1851 3 Bunyard's Yard, Maidstone, Kent William SAMUELS head mar 49 tailor b.Scotland Mary wife 33 tailor's wife b.Barming Kent Harriett dau 8 b.Barming Thomas son 5 b.Barming John son 3 b.East Farleigh Charles son (?) months b.Maidstone HO107/1617 folio 191 page 15 There is a marriage William SAMUEL(S) to Mary Ann LANGRIDGE in the Maidstone area 1845 http://extranet3.kent.gov.uk/sp/rois/marriagesearch.cfm# and http://freebmd.rootsweb.com
What is it that doesn't look right or that you require proof of?
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Yes, Matilda did survive or at least I'm pretty sure this is her (with her mother's parents)
1861
Little Common .....?, Trottiscliffe, Kent
Thomas CROUTCH head mar 62 groom b.Barming
Rebecca wife 63 b.Yalding
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Frederick STILL head/lodger? mar 24 ag lab b.Trosley Kent
Matilda wife 22 b.Barming
Ann dau 3 b.Trosley
RG9/486 folio 30 page 11
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1871
Trottiscliffe, Kent
Thomas CROUCH head mar 74 b.Barming
Rebecca wife 75 b.Yalding
Matilda STILL grandau 33 b.Barming
Ann E great grandau 13 b.Trottiscliffe
RG10/919 folio 32 page 12
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1881
10 May Street, Snodland, Kent
William STILL head mar 37 cement lab b.Birling Kent
Ann wife 23 b.Trottiscliffe Kent
Frederick W son 2 b.Snodland
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Frederick STILL head mar 45 lab b.Trottiscliffe
Matilda wife 47 rag cutter b.Barming
Ann dau 25 b.Trottiscliffe
RG11/900 folio 20 page 34
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Frederick STILL married Matilda CROUCH in the Maidstone registration district December quarter 1857 ref. 2a 669 http://freebmd.rootsweb.com
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Thanks again to all those who have helped so far. The next step would be to find out more information about Thomas and Rebecca Crouch. In the 1861 census Thomas claims to be 62 and to have been born in Barming (1798-99?). Rebecca claims to be 63 and to have been born in Yalding. Would anyone know if birth or baptism records exist for these parishes that could confirm these claims?
It would be great to get an idea of what Rebecca's maiden name might have been or the names of Thomas's parents (mother's name Jane?).
Also the search for John Miller's family has ground to a halt so does anybody know if church records for Hastings still exist as it appears from his census claim of 1871 that he was born there in about 1840-41. Any trace of him or more importantly his parents would be very welcome.
Thanks again for giving me a whole new branch of the family to explore.
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BettyofKent
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Hi Dane
CROUCH Baptisms in Barming:
23rd Aug 1789 Thomas son of Thomas & Jane Crouch
27th Aug 1797 Thomas son of Thomas & Jane Crouch
18th Sep 1800 Thomas (?John) son of Thomas & Jane Crouch (Privately)
Thomas & Jane had seven children baptised in Barming.
It's likely the first Thomas died in infancy, so they called the next son Thomas, he also died so they called the next son Thomas as well, unless there are two couples called Thomas & Jane. I'll see what I can find for marriages.
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This looks promising, only one CROUCH marriage in Barming:
22nd Aug 1786 By Banns
Thomas CROUCH Bachelor of Barming
Jane STARTUP Spinster of Barming.
Banns called Jul/Aug 1786
One other CROUCH under Banns for Barming:
Aug 1781
William CROUCH of Barming & Ann GOLDSMITH of West Farleigh
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There's quite a few STARTUP Baptisms in Barming, only one Jane:
29th Dec 1863 Jane dau of James & Eliza STARTUP (Labourer/Beershopkeeper/Shoemaker)
I'll see if I can find Rebecca in Yalding, after lunch
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There's no sign of a marriage between a Thomas Crouch & a Rebecca, in Barming or Yalding 
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Hi Dane
I can't see anything definite for John MILLER prior to his marriage. This is the nearest I could see with a connection to Hastings 
1841
Bail St, Folkestone, Kent
John MILLER 40 lab not born in Kent
Priscilla 40 not born in Kent
George 10 not born in Kent
Sophia 9 not born in Kent
Sarah 8 not born in Kent
Elizabeth 3 not born in Kent
HO107/477 folio 34 page 12
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1851
22 Bohemia Terrace, St Mary Magdalen, Hastings, Sussex
John MILLER head mar 50 lab b.not known
Priscilla wife mar 38 b.not known
George son unm 20 lab b.Crewkern Somerset
Elizabeth dau 12 b.Winchester Hants
John son 9 b.Folkestone Kent
Charles son 4 b.Dover Kent
HO107/1635 folio 601 page 85 and the following page
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1861
Weigton? Villa, (Wells Road?), Lewisham (St Bartholomew, Sydenham), Kent
John MILLER head mar 61 lab b.Hungerford Berkshire
Prissilia wife mar 58 b.Broadwindsor Dorset
Charles son 14 porter b.Dover Kent
RG9/416 folio 77 page 44
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The moderator for the Sussex boards here on Rootschat has a great deal of knowledge and resources for Hastings familys so it might be worthwhile to post a further request for information on a possible baptism for Jane MILLER or LANGRIDGE and/or any John MILLER in Hastings (with a link to all the information on this one to avoid duplication of efforts  )
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,265.0.html
I would think your next step be to purchase the marriage certificate for John MILLER and Harriett LANGRIDGE if you haven't done so already - it should give you names and occupations of their respective fathers.
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Thanks to all those who have helped out so far . The circumstantial evidence is piling up that Mary Langridge was the daughter of Thomas and Rebecca Crouch of Barming and there are obviously records for the baptism of Matilda who was probably her older sister. Would anybody out there be able to provide the final absolute link and find a baptism or birth entry to prove she was indeed a Crouch. It would give a solid context to all the information I have so far. Thanks again!!!
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