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petey22
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The Smithfield Martyr - John ROGERS c 1500-1555
« on: Tuesday 20 November 07 12:54 UTC (UK) »

Hi all
I received a multitude of information from a friendly chap on Suffolk Sirnames and one piece immediately grabbed my attention : "On the last day of the year (1840) the death occurred of 75 year old Nehemiah Rogers, whoseancestor, John Rogers, was the first martyr to be burned at the stake on 4th February 1555 in the reign of Queen Mary " ( From "Early Nineteenth Century Sudbury written and published by Allan W. Berry 2002. ,,,,, I have a couple of Nehemiah's in my tree I thought, and innocently subtracted 75 from 1840 and came up with a birth year of 1765,,,, feverishly I search through my piles of paperwork and there he was ,,, Nehemiah Rogers, born 1765, christened 11-6-1765 to Nehemiah Rogers and Sarah (unknown), st Gregory, Sudbury,Suffolk. I have him passing on in 1841, but that may come from a burial record ( after the last day of the year ) If this is true then I suddenly leap frog from the 1690's to 1555 and then on to around 1280, if what I have found on internet is correct. Oh joy of joys !!!!!! All this research is worth all the headaches !!!!
The quote I have has a note 3, which I guess will lead to the origin of this information. I have had no joy in tracking down a copy of this book as of yet, but maybe someone out there has a copy and can look it up for me. Or maybe someone knows of another reference to this ??
I hope that someone can help me prove this new link. Many thanks in advance and all the best
Pete Rogers Grin ( smiling like a Cheshire cat or what !!!)
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Re: the Smithfield Martyr
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 20 November 07 13:04 UTC (UK) »

From  NBI

Nehemiah Rogers bur. 8th January, 1841, aged 75yrs. = All Saints, Sudbury


Pete, it looks like the grave I took the photo of. If you study the pic carefully, you can just make out aged 7??



Nehomiah Rogers
1840
Dec qtr.
Sudbury
Volume: 12
Page: 319
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Re: the Smithfield Martyr
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 20 November 07 13:11 UTC (UK) »

Hi Sue
thats the guy,, funny that he was christened at St Gregory and then buried at All saints, I got that from IGI so maybe a mistake ?
I'm soooooo excited about this, cant wait to tell my cousin LOZ way down under in the land of Aus about this. Need to take a deep breath and make sure of all this first. I should be over to England early next year so I'll be scouring all the book shops in Sudbury !!!!
all the best
Pete Grin  ( will be grinning for weeks to come )
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Re: the Smithfield Martyr
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 20 November 07 13:16 UTC (UK) »

Hi Sue

saw the burial on your post and missed the reference to the grave/tomb,,,toooo excited !!!
didnt think of that, which Nehemiah is lying there, thanks for that, I'll get my magnifying glass out.cheers
Pete
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Re: the Smithfield Martyr
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 20 November 07 13:28 UTC (UK) »

I wonder how he came to have such a grand tomb, from what you say the family wasn't a rich one. It must have cost a pretty penny in the 1840s.
Maybe some benefactor thought he was worth it. Just so annoying trying to read it.

I think the first line of the inscription may have been in Latin. Maybe when you get to see it, you'll have better luck reading it. You could try the night time trick with a torch.
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Charles Bocking Rogers and 6 sons.1902 Hendon.


Re: the Smithfield Martyr
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 20 November 07 14:08 UTC (UK) »

Hi all
just got a reply from Lesley, book ref is ;
The Allan W. Berry book's ISBN is 1 899544 12 7. So its of to e-bay for me.
Introduction just says information gathered "from a variety of sources".
Book set out in chapters covering each year 1801-1850, so a chronicle of
happenings in Sudbury during each year.  Sources could include local
newssheets, court records, etc.
I'll keep digging, all the best.
Pete Grin


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Re: the Smithfield Martyr c 1500-1555
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 20 November 07 23:41 UTC (UK) »

You may find Abebooks.co.uk is also good for sourcing old Suffolk books.

Unfortunately one of the best independent book shops that I always recommended has closed down.  Now there is one independent bookshop in town and a good second hand book shop off North Street (I have a nasty habit of not being able to just walk past - I am compelled to enter)  Roll Eyes
There is a branch of a national book retailer - but despite asking many times, they still stock a very small selection of local books - in fact that section just seems to have Ordnance Survey maps of the area  Undecided

If you intend to visit the Sudbury area there are also bookshops nearby in Lavenham and in Long Melford.  Both of which are well worth a visit anywayz.

Allan Berry has written several books on the Sudbury/Great Cornard area.


The fact that Nehemiah was baptised at Saint Gregory's would indicate that is where his parents were living at the time of his birth and his death some years later a mile down the road at All Saints reflects where he was living when he died.  We also have St Peter's in the centre of town - unfortunately it is a redundant church, but it hosts all the charity sales, craft fairs, Farmers Markets and Christmas fairs. 

You can read more on all Sudbury's churches (and I think when I did the Suffolk Church Bike Ride a few years ago I called in at 13 that were taking part in the charity event), at www.suffolkchurces.co.uk and there is a page about redundant Suffolk churches at www.suffolk-surnames-list.co.uk

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