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smpabu
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My great grandfather was born in Victoria, Australia on 5 March 1862. His name was Joseph Henry Smith. His father was Joseph Smith and Mother Ann Lawson.
Could anyone look to see if there is a marriage entry for Joseph Smith and Ann Lawson. Also if there were any brothers or sisters for Joseph Henry Smith.
I have also been trying to look for a marriage for Joseph Henry Smith to a Miriam Coleman or Purcell and have had no luck. I think they were married after 1896 as my grand aunt Stella Jane Purcell was born in 1896 to Miriam Coleman and Patrick Purcell. I think Stella's date of birth was 22 July 1896.
It has been very hard to find any info so far and I have been told that not all church records made to Births, Deaths and Marriages.
Also they emmigrated to New Zealand sometime after 1896 but have no idea what ship. All I know is that the ship docked in Awanui, Northland, New Zealand.
Any help would be most greatfull..
Eileen
PS I have searched NSW BDM's website and no luck.
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Smith -Australia1800 - 1900,
Coppell - England 1600 to present, New Zealand -1850 to present
Buckby - England 1600 to present, Australia - 1800 to present, New Zealand - 1880 to present
Newdick - England 1713 to present, New Zealand -1840 to present Thompson England 1800 to present, New Zealand 1860 to present
Dykins - Wales 1700 to present, New Zealand 1903 to present, Australia 1890 to 1900
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smpabu
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Thanks Raylen.
Joseph Henry Smith and Miriam Coleman/Purcell both died in Whangarei, Northland New Zealand.
Was there a marriage for Joseph Smith and Ann Lawson?
I know what you mean with names like Jones, Smith etc as it is hard to find the right people that you may be looking for.
Once again thanks for the reply.
Eileen
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Smith -Australia1800 - 1900,
Coppell - England 1600 to present, New Zealand -1850 to present
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Newdick - England 1713 to present, New Zealand -1840 to present Thompson England 1800 to present, New Zealand 1860 to present
Dykins - Wales 1700 to present, New Zealand 1903 to present, Australia 1890 to 1900
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cando
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Hi Eileen
I can't see a marriage for Joseph SMITH and Ann LAWSON.
You can search the Vic BDM's online at
http://online.justice.vic.gov.au/servlet/bdm_home
Free to search but pay to view.
Cheers
cando
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tropicalj
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Helo there Eileen
you can download a copy of the birth certificate on line for around $17.50
this will give you where and when his parents married and also there places of birth
kind regards Jenn
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When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
I live in Townsville Queensland, Australia and I am researching TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,ADAMSON from NSW,
BAYLEY from Dorset,Yorkshire, BRYAN from Staffordshire, HAIR from Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE from Kent, EDSALL from Cornwall, MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER from Ireland,
VAN REYK, DE LA HARPE, from Sri Lanka
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ChristineR
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I have included the reg numbers, so you do not need to pay the extra .99c to find them.
Stella Jane PURCELL, birth reg Carlton, 1896 reg no: 18214
father: Patrick Mother: Miriam COLEMAN
Joseph Henry SMITH birth 1862 - reg: 8016
Joseph henry SMITH, death, 1863 - reg:4101
I also looked, there is no marriage for Ann Lawson and Joseph Smith in the Pioneers cd, so I doubt that it will be found in the online index. I tried all ways of finding it using wildcards.
How did you get those as the names of his parents?
I am wondering if someone has thought that it was his birth, not realizing that the child appears to have died the next year. It could be a co-incidence, but the registration place is the same. If so, they must have had another child of the same name, whom they did not register.
I searched for the SMITH / PURCELL marriage up to 1913 - it may have took place in New Zealand. Miriam also did not have any more children in Victoria up to that time.
ChristineR 
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smpabu
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Thanks ChristineR
My great grandfather was Joseph Henry Smith.
He emigrated to New Zealand some time after 1896 with Miriam Purcell. Miriam Coleman married Patrick Purcell in 1891 in NSW, Australia, they had a child named Nellie A Purcell in 1893. Also Miriam Coleman had a child named Arthur in 1889. Father unknown. I have searched NZ records on our marriage CD and found no record of a marriage between Joseph Henry Smith and Miriam Purcell/ Coleman.
I also have no idea if Joseph Smith married Ann Lawson when they had their son Joseph Henry Smith in 1862.
Very confusing family
Eileen
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Smith -Australia1800 - 1900,
Coppell - England 1600 to present, New Zealand -1850 to present
Buckby - England 1600 to present, Australia - 1800 to present, New Zealand - 1880 to present
Newdick - England 1713 to present, New Zealand -1840 to present Thompson England 1800 to present, New Zealand 1860 to present
Dykins - Wales 1700 to present, New Zealand 1903 to present, Australia 1890 to 1900
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JAP
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Eileen,
As ChristineR says - where did you get the names of your Joseph Henry SMITH's parents?
Where did you get a precise birthdate for him? Do you have his death certificate? Does this give his age, his birthplace and the names of his parents?
Without some such confirmation, it would be very risky to assume that Joseph Henry SMITH b 1862 in Vic is yours - given that there is what seems to be the death of this Joseph Henry SMITH aged 1 in 1863 in Vic (only 'problem' being that the given name of the mother is listed as Ann on birth entry, and Eliza Ann on death entry).
Here is another Joseph SMITH/Ann LAWSON person for interest/completeness:
*1883 - Elizabeth Ann HENNET, parents Joseph SMITH & Ann LAWSON, died at East Hill, Vic, age 26, 1883, #8040
Working backwards ....
*1879 - Arthur James HENNET born Emer, Vic, father Albert, mother Elizabeth Ann SMITH, 1879 #9062
*1877 - Elizabeth Ann SMITH (born Manchester) married Albert HENNET (born Murrumbidgee) in Vic in 1877 #2070
*1841 - Joseph SMITH married Ann LAWSON, Manchester Cathedral, Lancashire, 31 Jan 1841
(The marriage is also on FreeBMD)
Joseph SMITH is a common name; Ann LAWSON also ...
It really would be helpful if you would tell us what documented information you have about your Joseph Henry SMITH
Regards,
JAP
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smpabu
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Hi, I got the names of his parents from my uncle who lives in Auckland, New Zealand. I will have to do a search for his WW1 record that I have misplaced.
Also Joseph Henry Smith and Miriam Purcell/Coleman emigrated from Tasmania in February 1903.
When I find out the info on his WW1 record or find his death transcription I will get back to you.
Eileen
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Smith -Australia1800 - 1900,
Coppell - England 1600 to present, New Zealand -1850 to present
Buckby - England 1600 to present, Australia - 1800 to present, New Zealand - 1880 to present
Newdick - England 1713 to present, New Zealand -1840 to present Thompson England 1800 to present, New Zealand 1860 to present
Dykins - Wales 1700 to present, New Zealand 1903 to present, Australia 1890 to 1900
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tropicalj
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Are you saying the Joseph Smith born 1863 in Victoria served in WW1??
regards Jenn
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When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
I live in Townsville Queensland, Australia and I am researching TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,ADAMSON from NSW,
BAYLEY from Dorset,Yorkshire, BRYAN from Staffordshire, HAIR from Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE from Kent, EDSALL from Cornwall, MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER from Ireland,
VAN REYK, DE LA HARPE, from Sri Lanka
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