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Spursbird
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Re: Circus Look Ups
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 19 January 08 20:51 GMT (UK) »

Quote from: copeland on Tuesday 20 November 07 16:36 GMT (UK)

circus folk are not on the normal census records as they where classed travellers so they had a seperate census done which includes fairground gypse hawkers and general travelleres

lorraine

Hi, Sorry to tell you this but I have spent the past ten years reseaching my family and there is not a seperate census for anyone. One Census done every ten years but what is different is that you will find them living in Tent/Caravans/in Pub Yards/and Lanes. The address is shown next to the nearest house. A good example of this is my Lee family from Kent: 1861 Census living under Tent. Just keep looking but most of the research has been done by Pauline from Canada and there are many links onto her site. Maybe you have found this index of hers - as it done for Circus/Fair/Gypsy folk and was on the Galloper Site for many years - also there was a site called Passing Through (I gave both sites each others details and they linked up) which listed Gypsy census info.

I am at the moment trying to put all my information into a readable search - do contact me if you any of the interests below could cross over with your research.

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Pettigrove. - any area and country.
Lee. Gypsy - Kent area .
Yelding.Hornby.Frost. Fossett,Travelling showmen and circus connections.
Adams.Tomlin.Penfold.Rossiter. Baker.Keefe.Allen my Kent connections.
Baker - Canterbury
Tanner. Eastbourne and Horsham area.
Rout . Brighton

Whitehead- Burnley Lancs.

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Re: Circus Look Ups
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 20 January 08 00:26 GMT (UK) »

Hi Rita

the circus ppl im looking for are the bakers, fossets,paulos,are just a few

and the main ones

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Crake Durham, Copeland Lancashire/manfield
Baker Glostershire, Rickerby Durham, circus and fairground all

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« Reply #32 on: Saturday 23 February 08 16:24 GMT (UK) »

Hello Copeland.
My aunt (who was known by a number of names) worked with the Wallendas in 1934 and 1935 whilst they were with Bertram Mills circus. She was known as Winifred Innes Smith,Judith Innes Lloyd, Judith Innes Gordon and Judith Lloyd. She married Phillip Kries on 21st October, 1934, in Oxford whilst the circus was in Oxford, and they were photographed riding one of the elephants in the circus parade. Phillip Kreis was one of the Wallenda artistes.
Have you got any further information re the Wallendas of that time? She and Phillip travelled to Germany and joined Circus Gleich, but she and Phillip divorced shortly afterwards. I would be grateful for anything that you could tell me.
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« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 13:16 BST (UK) »

i wonder if you could look up the name busch and millar for me.i think they must be circus or fairground folk.a few details i have are jacob smith married matlida capel,her sister daisy married john cooper,matlida capel also married tommy scott,henry millar married b.1896 married rebbeca smithjohn millar married a turner,the millars married quite alot into smiths and coopers.any of the above names would be useful and anyinfo you have .many many thanks cathayb


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« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 10 June 08 18:37 BST (UK) »

Hello Copeland

I would be grateful if you could tell me anything about Leonard and Annie Mitchell - he was a circus musician in Lincolnshire in 1901, and she was a 'circus performer.' I d not think they were from traveller families. I see that Sanger's circus was in Grantham at the time.

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« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 10 June 08 22:22 BST (UK) »

hi,i am desperately seeking early info on the wilson and rosaire families.i beleive the first rosaire came from france with a jacques rosaire.the wilsons are some cencues listed as travellers/hawkers and othertimes fair/circus folk.i would particularily like info on a john rosaire/roser/rose whose family mum dad and siblings left him aged 12 behind in england when they went to western australia aboard the simon taylor in 1842.in 1841 they can be foung in east grinstead on the common there.john was born in mereworth kent.thanks for any help you can give cathayb


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« Reply #36 on: Tuesday 10 June 08 23:07 BST (UK) »

Hi Cathayb

There is another thread on here about the ROSER family from Kent/Sussex see

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,296659.0.html

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« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 10 June 08 23:37 BST (UK) »

thanks a million.i have been searching for days.good to know other people are on the same search.thanks for letting me know.i am off to bed now but hope to post some results before long.what is the book mentioned on the roser thread.does anyone know.love cathayb


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« Reply #38 on: Friday 13 June 08 05:21 BST (UK) »

Quote from: copeland on Sunday 18 November 07 21:31 GMT (UK)

I have a copy of the victorian arena vol 1, vol 2.
and 20th century Circus people 1901 - 1950

if any one wants a lookup please ask and i wil check it out for you

i also have the census records for 1841, 1851, 1861,1871,1881,1891,1901
for circus and fairground folk

Could you please do a do look up for me for a Henry James Coward known as:

Enrico - Ariel Demon

and his wife Jennifer/Ginny

Many thanks

Chris


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« Reply #39 on: Friday 13 June 08 12:11 BST (UK) »

HI Copeland
I am researching the families "LOCK" & "BOSWELL" who were Travelling Gypsies I can find them on the census for Wales 1901 but cannot find them anywhere else, any information on them would be very much appreciated.
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« Reply #40 on: Friday 13 June 08 17:18 BST (UK) »

you will find locks in most cencuses and definately in nailsea/bristol/glosoucester.boswells is a very common traveller name aswell and you should find some in most cencuses.look on romanygenes blank page web site.alot on there.alot of locks and boswells also went to america.there is a thread on here by don lock for american gypsies aswell and on romanygenes 2 hope that helps.try different spellings aswell like adding an e on lock.e.g.locke.regards cathayb


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« Reply #41 on: Thursday 31 July 08 21:09 BST (UK) »

Hi do you srill have the census records etc. would you be able to look up Arthur john Warman. All I know is he ran away with Lord George Sangers Circus. Many thanks Sarah


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