tarnya
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Hi everyone have just joined and thought i would see if anyone knows anything about Gorse Barn Farm Attleborough.My great grandparents lived there in 1901 John and Ellen Smith .John was a farm labourer .John born Woodford Hase 1855 and Ellen Edden born 1851 Eydon.I am trying to find anything about the family after 1901 have names of children and only 4  of them have been traced since 1901. Can anyone help me in my Quest to find Deaths for Ellen and John!!
Children are as follows:
Mary Millicent
John George 1879 Eydon
William E 1886 Daventry
Edith Elizabeth 1888 Daventry
Edden 1891 Whimpstone
George Edden 1884
James Thomas 1882
I have all information for children except William, John and james.Any information on family after 1901
is difficult to find so any help appreciated Tarnya
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Hello Tarnya & welcome to RootsChat
Is your Attleborough the one in Norfolk?
Jim
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OK found one in Nuneaton,is this the one?
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tarnya
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Hi Jim
Yes thats the one !
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I think you're brave taking on a Smith family but anyway heregoes.
Nothing for the 3 lads in Nuneaton but working on the middle names
& in roughly the surrounding areas I have these marriages:
James Thomas Smith/Dec.1905/Solihull/6d/1169
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Edith Marian Teague or Elizabeth Francis Whitlock
Dec.1905/Warwick/6d/1214
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Annie Isabel Clifton
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William Ernest Smith
Mar.1906/Foleshill/6d/560
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Alice Elizabeth Brittain or Clara Jane Cliff
Dec.1906/Cov./6d/1013
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Louisa Cave or Edith Thornett
William E Smith
Jan.1914/Cov./6d/1398
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Winifred Jackson
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John George Smith
Sep.1899/Sol./6d/1130
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Clara Garnett or Millicent Alice Lyons
If you think any of these may be yours and send for the cert.
state father's name,if it the wrong one you will be refunded £3.50.
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tarnya
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Jim
Thank you so much . I think Williams middle name possibly would have been Edden so William E smith seems the best as Ernest does not feature as far as i know in our family. As for being brave in taking on the smith family tree i thought it would be easy as George Edden and Edden were both my grandads [parents were 1st cousins].That is why im trying to find john and Ellens whereabouts after 1901 so as to visit where they are burried. There is no trace of Edden in 1901 census he was 10 but not at Gorse Barn cottage. I have BMD dates for him but nothing in between except 2 addresses for him in Willey for 1911 and 1919 where he was working as a farm labourer . Rumour has it that in about 1926 he went travelling leaving my gran and my mum plus siblings. George Eddens in laws were the Kirby family who were related to a family or were themselves travelers . Edden may have joined them . He died in High view Hospital Exhall in 1957. Do you know what kind of hospital it was or how i can find John and Ellen after 1901. I do have different dates and places for deaths but with so many i need to sort the right ones before ordering certificates .
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Hi
I live in Bedworth and High View Hospital was in hospital lane, Bedworth. I,m not sure if part of it is still there as there is a complex for the elderly there now called Richmond lodge, Bede village. I did find this though
HIGH VIEW HOSPITAL, EXHALL. Foleshill Rural District Council opened an infectious diseases hospital in Exhall in 1905. There were rarely enough cases from the Foleshill area and the overflow from the City Isolation Hospital was sent to Exhall. From 1920 to 1922 it was leased as a temporary tuberculosis sanatorium and for about two years before 1930 it was unoccupied. In 1930 it was reopened by Coventry corporation as a hospital for male mental defectives. In 1942, after the disruption of Coventry's hospital services during the bombing, temporary buildings were erected at Exhall, the mental patients were transferred to St. Margaret's Hospital, Great Barr (Staffs.), and the whole establishment, renamed Exhall Lodge Hospital, was opened in 1943 for chronic sick patients. In 1951 the name was changed again to High View Hospital, all able-bodied patients were removed to corporation old peoples' homes and the hospital was in 1959 graded as a geriatric hospital of 262 beds. Annexes, opened in 1944 at Gosford and Walsgrave, were closed in 1949 and 1951 respectively.
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hi
have you seen this post
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=195524896e7bf8f2b5dd1abadd00b2d6&topic=213901.0
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Spicer, Harris, Coventry
Huntley Wiltshire, Monmouthshire
Gardner Stoneleigh, Gloucestershire
Holmes, warwickshire
Cox, Daventry, Coventry, Rugby
Hales, Stockton, Southam
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Hi Julie thanks for the High View hospital information .Edden died of Bronchial Asthma and Chronic Bronchitis. Guess thats what you get from being on the road if thats where he was . Also requests on that web page are from a cousin of mine that i found on internet it is her that started me looking .
She sent me so much information but we cannot find deaths for John and Ellen as its such a common name. I recently found my dads mums grave in Claybrooke it was unmarked also Grandad George Edden next to her . He died i have found out in 1944 so i never knew either of my grandads . As i have said i have a few dates for John and Ellen but no way of knowing which ones which.
I have Tamworth , Aston for both of them . i do have one for John 1919 Nuneaton and i am wondering if it was him .Edden and George lived Claybrooke and Willey at that time i think so could Ellen have gone to be with them as i have a death for Ellen Smith Lutterworth 1924 but again its a guess.Would love to find John and Ellen and visit their grave so as i can send cousin a photo im sure it would make her day as she has been searching for ages with no luck . Who would be a Smith!!!!!
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Hello Tarnya
I think I would go with your instinct as you know your family best.Send for the certs. & see how you get on,but if you can find their graves be ready for disappointment as many people didn't have headstones & some graves were used by more than one person.Good luck & let us know how you get on.
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I would click on the above link as julieproctor61 suggests as I did some work with pcjr (Australia) on the same family and feel you should get your heads together.
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Ah sorry, I see that you already have.......
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Hi Al in Vane
Thanks anyway .
Tarnya
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hi
thought this might be of some interest to you, seems gorse barn farm was sold in 1911.
http://www.a2a.org.uk/search/records.asp?cat=1585-est01_3&cid=247
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tarnya
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Hi Julie
Thank you for sending that information . I wonder if John carried on working there or if he had already left . He did travel around working on Farms in 1891 he was in Whimpstone but apparently not there in 1894. I am at a loss on why they kept moving as farming was a steady buisness back then i thought so why did he not stay in one place.As most of the children were born in Eydon i guess he moved on to Daventry where 2 more children were born then to Whimpstone where my Grandad was born . Do you know how i could find out more about Gorse Barn and see if they could shed any more light on John and Ellens Where a bouts after 1901.
Thanks again.
Tarnya
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