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Re: gar's Scavenger Hunt .....Everybody Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 20 November 07 15:58 GMT (UK) »

 Grin

Following on with the Larkins

1871
Elswick, Newcastle
William R Larkin head mar 49 Straw hat manufacturer
Elizabeth wife mar 48 straw hat maker
Hannah K dau 18 milliner
Lydia M A dau 12 scholar

1881
Elswick , Newcastle
William R Larkin head WID 59 Straw hat manufacturer employ 2
Lydia M A Wilson dau mar 22 Straw Hat maker
William L? Wilson son-in-law 23 Grocers? assist
Elizabeth Wheatley lodger unm 24 ? room assistant

Elizabeth's death ; Cry
Elizabeth Larkins
Dec q 1879, Newcastle
vol 10b p 18

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« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 20 November 07 20:12 GMT (UK) »

Just got on and at least only on second page! Do you want me to summarise this one and do tree thingy?  Grin

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« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 20 November 07 20:48 GMT (UK) »

Don't know if this is too early?

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Re: gar's Scavenger Hunt .....Everybody Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 20 November 07 20:54 GMT (UK) »

Have just looked in. You lot have been busy!

CatOne, osprey, DJ and deb seem to have found references to all the children which is fantastic!

david a summary and tree would be lovely!

At this point I have to assume that Elizabeth (Johnson) Ives died pre-1837, otherwise something would have been found.



hepburn: what resources can you bring to bear? we may need parish records for various places

will be on the restoration board for a while, will check in later and see how you all are getting on.

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Re: gar's Scavenger Hunt .....Everybody Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 20 November 07 20:56 GMT (UK) »

this is definelty connected look at the other members of the household:~

1881 census:~
RG11 1344 100 46;
7 grove Place, Ealing, Brentford  Middlesex

Charles Ives  24   Head  Male born: Brampton, Norfolk, England, married, joiner
(so making him b. abt 1857)  

Lodger Algernon Allen 21  
Wife Julia Ives 24  

(note, find Charles in 1861 census to ascertain parents)

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found this marriage on Phillimores unfortunalety it doesn't cover Brampton but she may be connected.

MORGAN George  24-Jan-1744  IVES Sarah  Huntingdonshire  Ramsey


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Re: gar's Scavenger Hunt .....Everybody Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 20 November 07 20:58 GMT (UK) »


Oooh listen to Mr Crack the Whip !!  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

I was just bringing a bit of padding !! ... which Gar probably already knows but ..... this is a special place for me !! thought I'd share !!  Smiley

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Re: gar's Scavenger Hunt .....Everybody Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 20 November 07 21:05 GMT (UK) »

i did note from the freecen that either Huntigdonshire isnt covered or the Ives family moved away from the area
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SMA is the biggest genetic killer of children under the age of 2 years
1 in 40 of you carry the gene that passes this conditon on
There is no current treatment
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http://www.justgiving.com/toniholman

Tomorrow is too late

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« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 20 November 07 21:28 GMT (UK) »

 Grin

Why is the screen so wide  Undecided

g a r ...I looked for her death ,  Elizabeth Ives nee Johnson,  circa 1837-1841..I looked in Lincs, as that was where her husband was in 1841 ...I also looked Hunts. I tried a one name search ..ie: Elizabeth incase her name was mistranscribed ...eg: Hives  Grin  Undecided

Couldn't see anything ....

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Ps great job David  Cheesy
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Re: gar's Scavenger Hunt .....Everybody Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 20 November 07 21:37 GMT (UK) »

Does anyone have the NBI? I thought I saw a possible burial for Elizabeth in Brampton in 1826. Think my cd drive has just died.  Sad
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Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
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Re: gar's Scavenger Hunt .....Everybody Welcome To Join In.
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 20 November 07 21:41 GMT (UK) »

Hi there
i agree ,i think that elizabeth died pre 1837 - i found nothing.

David - your summary/ trees are great - they help me loads.
Annie- enjoyed the info about Brampton.
i've looked LOADS for allen Ives in 1841 census but nothing yet- unless it's been found by now. I'll be back on the case tomorrow !
What is NBI ?
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« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 20 November 07 21:42 GMT (UK) »

Summary

Allen Ives, sawyer  (his occupation) born 27, 4, 1796 Brampton Hunts son of Thomas Ives and Elizabeth Smart
(Married 11, 10, 1790 Buckworth) Elizabeth (Johnson) Ives (their marriage 9, 12, 1817 Brampton, Hunts)
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1841 Waterloo Square, Bourne, Lincs HO107/615/21 folio 22 pg 36
Allen Ives 40 sawyer born in county

1851 HO107/2101 Folio 306 Page 2
Swaton, Lincs
Alen Hives lodger widr 55 Sawyer Brampton Huntingdonshire
in house of -
William Cooper 43 Licenced Victualler and Farmer 30 acres Swaton
Mary 46 Newark Nottinghamshire
William Barnes serv 20 Agricultural Servant Billingboro Lincs
Mary A Watson serv 19 House Servant Stanley?

1861 Census RG9/411 folio 96 page 21
George A Ives    Head    33    Joiner    Brampton Hunts
married Sept Qaurter 1856 Hitchin (3a 289)
Annie (Thody) do   wife    26       Baldock Herts
George do    son    3    Scholar    Charlton Kent
William do    son    1       Charlton Kent
James Hart    boarder    26    Joiner
James Carstairs    boarder    32    Joiner
Allen Ives    father Wid 64    Sawyer    Brampton Hunts
died June Quarter 1864 Greenwich (1d 456)

their children:
1) Catherine Allen born 13, 12, 1818 Brampton Hunts

Marriage reg
Catherine Ives sept qtr 1843 Biggleswade with John Pedley on same page

1851 Norton St, Baldock, Herts HO107/1709 folio 123 pg 25
John Pedley head mar 29 baker b. Bedford
Catherine wife 32 b. Brampton, Hunts
Lewis I son 6 b. Baldock
Helen A dau 2 b. Baldock
Elizabeth Cox 12 servant b. Norton
John Wheeler 20 journey man baker b. Hunts, Brampton
Frederick Latchford 15 errand boy b. Herts, Pegsdon
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2) Louis born 5, 11, 1820 Brampton Hunts

1841 High St, Pointon, Lincs HO107/622/6 folio 5 og 5
Louis Ives 20 ag lab not born in county

1851 Horbling, Lincs HO107/2095 folio 198 pg 5
Lewis Ives 32(?) horse breaker b. NK

death registration
Lewis Ives march qtr 1857 Bourn vol 7a pg 199
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3) Elizabeth born 28, 7, 1822 Brampton Hunts

In 1841 theres an Elizabeth Ives 20 FS N, High Street, Biggleswade, Beds HO107/2/5 Folio 13 Page 21 in house of Thomas "Spong" (30 Chemist N) wife Mary (20 Y), daughter Ellen (1Y) and chemist ap, John Shackelford (15 N)
IGI batch no M016752 Elizabeth Ives m William Robinson Larkins 5/6/1848 St Mary, Luton
GRO ref june qtr 1848 Luton vol 6 pg 132

1851 Windsor St, Luton, Beds HO107/1757 folio 439 pg 5
William Larkins head mar 29 bonnet blocker b. Beds. Biggleswade
Elizabeth wife 28 bonnet sewer b. Hunts, Brampton
George son 2 b. Beds, Luton
Charles son 4 months b. Beds, Luton
Rachel Herbert lodger 15 bonnet sewer b. Herts, Norton
Elizabeth Sanders lodger 13 bonnet sewer b. Herts, Hatfield
Edith Deacon visitor 14 b. Beds, Luton

here they are in 1861
Northumberland, Elswick, Newcastle
William R Larkins head mar 39 Straw bonnet dealer b biggleswade
Elizabeth wife mar 38 straw bonnet maker , b Bampton, Beds
George  son unm 12 b Luton, Beds
Hannah dau unm 8 b Luton Deds
Lydia dau 2 b Newcastle
Isabella Bremwell 13 serv

added this could be Charles' death

Charles Larkin
June q 1859 Newcastle, Northumberland

1871
Elswick, Newcastle
William R Larkin head mar 49 Straw hat manufacturer
Elizabeth wife mar 48 straw hat maker
Hannah K dau 18 milliner
Lydia M A dau 12 scholar

1881
Elswick , Newcastle
William R Larkin head WID 59 Straw hat manufacturer employ 2
Lydia M A Wilson dau mar 22 Straw Hat maker
William L? Wilson son-in-law 23 Grocers? assist
Elizabeth Wheatley lodger unm 24 ? room assistant

Elizabeth Larkins died
Dec q 1879, Newcastle
vol 10b p 18
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4) George Allen born 25, 7, 1824 Brampton Hunts
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5) Allen born   buried (infant) 20, 9, 1826



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London/Surrey - Clark
Lincolnshire/Nottinghamshire - Spencer, Broughton, Sprigg, Martin
Cornwall - Sowden
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I found this .... but I can't get in to retrieve it .... can anybody else ??  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Settlement Appeal - Mary Ives, Brampton to Saint Marylebone ...

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« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 20 November 07 21:48 GMT (UK) »

Bravo bravo - amazing - all that already.wow someone found allen in 1841 !
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« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 20 November 07 21:52 GMT (UK) »

These threads are amazing......what you all find overnight while I'm sleeping never ceases to astound me.

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Grin

Why is the screen so wide  Undecided


my fault my tree image too big, have now altered  Grin
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Wiltshire - Hibberd
London/Surrey - Clark
Lincolnshire/Nottinghamshire - Spencer, Broughton, Sprigg, Martin
Cornwall - Sowden
Herefordshire/Shropshire/Wales - Worrall
Essex - Saville
Dorset - Atkins, Govier
Devon - Wakely, Parsons
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