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Topic: Found a will on gov.uk.Wilts.Will - can I put on here? (Read 898 times)
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Abiam
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Christmas Day2009
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I have found a will on gov. wilts and wonder if there are copyright problems if I were to put it on here for help with comprehension. It is openly available and I have been able to print it off so I don't think there should be a problem but prefer to ask first.
Any ideas?
Regards, Abiam
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DOPSON/DOBSON, Fyfield, Wilts
SMITH, WEBB, WATTS Little Gransden, Gamlingay, Hatley St George,Cambs/Hunts
HUNT, Wanborough, Swindon, Wilts
TUBB, Hungerford, Berks,
EGERTON, Highworth, Wilts
WISE, Fawley, Bray, Binfield Berks
WYSE, Wise, Maidenhead, Berks
VINCE, VINCENT, St Mary Bourne, Hants, Bucks, Berks
TUCKWELL ANYWHERE!
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Abiam
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Christmas Day2009
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I was looking for Wills in Fyfield Wilts.
This is the address:
http://history.wiltshire.gov.uk/heritage/wills_search.php?community_in=Fyfield
(not sure about the capital F in Fyfield but that's how it's written!)
If that doesn't work Google Fyfield Wilts and it's on the 2nd page about 3 or 4 down.
Hope that helps.
Abiam
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DOPSON/DOBSON, Fyfield, Wilts
SMITH, WEBB, WATTS Little Gransden, Gamlingay, Hatley St George,Cambs/Hunts
HUNT, Wanborough, Swindon, Wilts
TUBB, Hungerford, Berks,
EGERTON, Highworth, Wilts
WISE, Fawley, Bray, Binfield Berks
WYSE, Wise, Maidenhead, Berks
VINCE, VINCENT, St Mary Bourne, Hants, Bucks, Berks
TUCKWELL ANYWHERE!
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Abiam
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Posts: 1416
Christmas Day2009
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It does work! I've just tried it.
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Genealogists never die! They just undertake to join their ancestors!
DOPSON/DOBSON, Fyfield, Wilts
SMITH, WEBB, WATTS Little Gransden, Gamlingay, Hatley St George,Cambs/Hunts
HUNT, Wanborough, Swindon, Wilts
TUBB, Hungerford, Berks,
EGERTON, Highworth, Wilts
WISE, Fawley, Bray, Binfield Berks
WYSE, Wise, Maidenhead, Berks
VINCE, VINCENT, St Mary Bourne, Hants, Bucks, Berks
TUCKWELL ANYWHERE!
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JAP
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Abiam,
Could you specify precisely which Will on that site (which works perfectly) you need help with?
And perhaps indicate which part(s) of the Will you are having trouble with.
Regards,
JAP
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Abiam
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Christmas Day2009
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How about nearly all of it!!! It is for Nicholas Dobson 1701 and I can see a wife Elizabeth, daughters Hannah and Mary and a son John. 15 pounds each. I was hoping to find if he left any property. There are the names William Dickman (not sure abt the surname) and Thomas Marsh. I can't see any address and I also think the 2nd page is in Latin. Not my forte!
Anything might help,
Regards, Abiam
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Genealogists never die! They just undertake to join their ancestors!
DOPSON/DOBSON, Fyfield, Wilts
SMITH, WEBB, WATTS Little Gransden, Gamlingay, Hatley St George,Cambs/Hunts
HUNT, Wanborough, Swindon, Wilts
TUBB, Hungerford, Berks,
EGERTON, Highworth, Wilts
WISE, Fawley, Bray, Binfield Berks
WYSE, Wise, Maidenhead, Berks
VINCE, VINCENT, St Mary Bourne, Hants, Bucks, Berks
TUCKWELL ANYWHERE!
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tidybooks
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi All,
The Wiltshire site says as long as not used for commercial use, should be ok.
Here is an example of what the Latin part means,
Probatum fuit humor(?) testum apud London vicesimo sexto die mensis Aprilis Anno Dmi (Domini) Millimo (millensimo) sexcenmo(sescentesimo) octogemo (octogesimo) sexto coram venti (venerati) viro Thoma Pinsole Legum Dcore (Doctore) Surro doulis et equeqii viri Richardi Rames Dcores(?) Curia Prerogativa Cantuarensis Magri(?) custodis sive(?) comisarii prime(?) constituti juramento Elizabetha Sterry Relca dicti desurn (?) xr(etcetera) Executricis in dicto testamento nominat cui comissu fuit adudstraco omnium et singulorum bonorum jurium et creditorum dicti defuncti de bono xr fidelitor adudstrands eadem ad sancta dei Evangelia Jurat
This will was proved at London the twenty sixth day of April in the year of our Lord one thousand six hundred and eighty six before the Worshipful Thomas Pinsole Doctor of Laws Surrogate of the Right Worshipful Richard Rames Doctor of Laws Master Keeper Commisary of the Prerogative Court of Canterbury lawfully constituted by the oath of Elizabeth Sterry Relict and the sole executrix named in the said will to whom administration was granted of all and singular the goods chattels and credits of the deceased she having been first sworn duly to administer on the holy Gospel of God.
Tom
PS copyright to http://www.sterryworldwide.com/policy.htm and permission allowed to be reproduced here.
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Scotland - Buchanan, Thomson, Paterson, Stewart, Ritchie, Tracey
Ireland - Tracey, Conroy, Paterson.
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Galium
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
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Nicholas begins by saying "I being sick and weak but in good memory do make my last Will and Testament Item I make my wife Elizabeth my whole executor Item I give to Hannah my eldest daught fifteen pounds Item I give to my daughter Mary 15 --00--00 Item I give to my son John 15---00---00
If either child dye as is to be paid the Legis it is to [---] to the other Leagasis as they come of age If my wife doe dye before they comes of age Nicholas Dobson shall pay them as they come of age My wife shall have the Bargain at Lockridge during her widowhood heare I appoint my Friends John Waller and Thomas Smith trustees to see the will performed ---------
The marke of Nicholas Dobson
William Dickman
Thomas Marsh
Ann Dickman
[The last three names will be the witnesses]
The Latin part shows when probate was granted after Nicholas' death. Sorry I can't translate.
Added: But it was on the nineteenth of September 1707 (decimo nono Septembris Anno Dni 1707)
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Abiam
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Christmas Day2009
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Many thanks to you all for your help. I am very pleased as my
eyesight is not as good as it could be!
Now all I have to do is see if and where he fits!
You are all quite wonderful everything sorted within a couple
of hours,
Thank you, Abiam
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Genealogists never die! They just undertake to join their ancestors!
DOPSON/DOBSON, Fyfield, Wilts
SMITH, WEBB, WATTS Little Gransden, Gamlingay, Hatley St George,Cambs/Hunts
HUNT, Wanborough, Swindon, Wilts
TUBB, Hungerford, Berks,
EGERTON, Highworth, Wilts
WISE, Fawley, Bray, Binfield Berks
WYSE, Wise, Maidenhead, Berks
VINCE, VINCENT, St Mary Bourne, Hants, Bucks, Berks
TUCKWELL ANYWHERE!
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JAP
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Hi Gallium, I read that missing word as 'remaine' - what do you think? I wonder what the Bargain at Lockeridge was ... JAP
Abiam, Here's Gallium's great work re-formatted into line-by-line in case you want to compare it with the images.
Image 1
Nicholas Dobson ## In the Name
of God Amen I being sick & weake
but in good memory doe make my last Will
and Testament./ # # Item I make my wife Elizabeth
my whole Exsecuttor./ # # Item I give to Hannah
lb- s- d
my eldest Daughter fifteene Pound -- 15-00-00 --
Item I give to my daughter Mary -- 15-00-00 --
Item I give to my Sonn John --- 15-00-00 --
If either Child dye as is to be paid the Leagis it is
to remaine to the other Leagasis, if my Wife doe live
shee is to pay the Leagasis as they comes of Age,/ If
my Wife doe dye before they comes of Age Nicholas
Dobson shall pay them as they comes of Age My
Wife shall have the Bargain at Lockeridge during her
Widdow-hood./ Heare I appoint my to Frinds John
Image 2
Walter and Thomas Smith Trustees to see
the Will pformed # # the marke of Nicholas
Dobson./ # # # William Dickman, Thomas
Marsh, Ann Dickman./ # # #
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tidybooks
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Hi Gallium, I read that missing word as 'remaine' - what do you think? I wonder what the Bargain at Lockeridge was ... JAP
Here it is JAP,
WILTSHIRE DIALECT WORDS
Bargain - small landed property or holding e.g. house, garden, land
Tom
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Galium
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Hi JAP, yes I can see 'remaine' now you have pointed it out. I was trying to make it into 'revert', but left it out in the end as it didn't quite work.
Thanks for the Bargain explanation , Tidybooks - I was wondering about that too.
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Abiam
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Christmas Day2009
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Jap, Tom and Gallium,
Your help much appreciated. Not knowing too much about rural 18th Cenrtury life I was pleased to find that I did know what a bargain was. Apart from finding a wonderful pair of shoes at a bargain price in the right size!
I also think a 'messuage' is a bargain,
Many thanks, Abiam
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Genealogists never die! They just undertake to join their ancestors!
DOPSON/DOBSON, Fyfield, Wilts
SMITH, WEBB, WATTS Little Gransden, Gamlingay, Hatley St George,Cambs/Hunts
HUNT, Wanborough, Swindon, Wilts
TUBB, Hungerford, Berks,
EGERTON, Highworth, Wilts
WISE, Fawley, Bray, Binfield Berks
WYSE, Wise, Maidenhead, Berks
VINCE, VINCENT, St Mary Bourne, Hants, Bucks, Berks
TUCKWELL ANYWHERE!
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