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Gillg
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You must click on Susan's link to see the photo - it's very atmospheric. So glad she managed much better than me and actually saw the place.
When Gloucester Record Office re-opens after Christmas I can take a look at Minsterworth records for you. Looks as though there are BTs from1575 and registers from 1633. Looks like there will be plenty of Goughs to be found. I can also try Maisemore (quite a step away) and Westbury registers for a possible marriage.
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukFAIREY/FAIRY/FAREY, CHURCH from Easton, Ellington, Eynesbury, Gt Catworth, Huntingdon, Spaldwick, Hunts; Burnley, Lancs; New Zealand, Australia & US. HURST, BOLTON, BUTTERWORTH, ADAMSON, WILD from Milnrow, Newhey, Oldham & Rochdale, Lancs. |
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Keziahemm
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Hi S
click on these links for photos and map in the Common Room - Lighter side.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,271815.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,271814.0.html
Poolend is east of the church but doesn't appear on modern maps.
Why I was querying Joseph 1797 from Maisemore was because his age when he married would have been 13!! There was a large contingent of Goughs in Westbury on Severn at that time.
I presume you have the maiden name of George's wife Sarah (Artus). There is a web site with the Artus family tree also includes George and children.
We had daughter's dogs with us yesterday unfortunately the cattle took exception so we had to get over the stile very quickly - sight to behold  When the fields are a bit drier will have another look at the cottage and take some photos of the inside, would have been a two up two down - the old boy told us the cider press was still there somewhere - can you lay claim to this as heir 
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Susan 
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Herefordshire: Mytton Lincolnshire: Ingham Northamptonshire: Knight (Welford); Linnell; Gaudern; Staffordshire (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Somerset: Bailey; Lewis Warwickshire: ( Alcester, Henley in Arden, Aston Cantlow): Lewis; Casey/Keasey Warwickshire, (Birmingham suburbs) Knight; Lewis Yorkshire (Bradford): Ingham Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov |
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Sprout
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Sssh! The whole of Gloucester will be traipsing the fields to grab my Cider Press... I bequeath it to you on condition I get a tenth of the produce every Christmas Day!
Yes...bit of a problem with our Joseph...just matured early? I'll keep working on that.
Great photos they neatly sum up my 'roots' (another line- Griffiths- were human scarecrows!)...if you ever need 'field-work' doing in East Devon or West somerset...let me know.
The reason I say google-map is it has a satellite option and you can zoom in on areas to incredible detail....p.s. you need to bring your washing in.
Sprout
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Keziahemm
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Have looked at satellite image on http:maps.live.com/ putting in postcode GL2 8JJ, Poolend House should be approx qtr. mile east on edge of riverbank, apple orchard to rear but can't see it  
Susan
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Never easy is it....thanks again and thanks to you to gillg. Let me know if you find anything..
Sprout
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Gillg
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I shall probably need a reminder after the Christmas hullaballoo, please 
Gillg
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Keziahemm
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Hi Gill
Might join you at RO after Christmas
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Susan
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Gillg
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That would be good. Everything is being re-organised just now, so it will be a case of starting afresh, just when I'd got the hang of things. The staff are always helpful, though.
Regards,
Gill
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Sprout
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I think I've found my Joseph....born 1782 Minsterworth.(IGI)
This means Esther wasn't quite the cradle -snatcher she appeared.
Joseph appears in the 1851 census in Cheltenham...complete with son Joseph of correct age(b;1813) ( Esther seems to have 'gone on')One of them was born in MUSLERWORTH and one in MUTTERWORTH!!!......are these transcribers ever sober?
This ties in nicely with the memoirs of Joseph's other son William, who mentioned his parents moving to Cheltenham.
And here's the spooky bit....
Joseph (b:1812) is married to a Mary! They have two lodgers, A.Shepherd and A.King......and Cheltenham is almost an anagram of...well take off the c and n....add a b!.....I knew I was special.
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Keziahemm
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Hi Sprout
All we need now is the other two Kings and Oh Little Town of ...........
I did spot Joseph in Cheltenham but thought I would let you have a look for yourself. 
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Susan
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Sprout
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Ahead of me again Miss Marple......first one back to Noah wins!
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I was interested in your messages as I'm related to Joseph Gough senior via his son Joseph.
The information I have is that Joseph senior was born 4/8/1782 in Minsterworth with his father being (yes you guessed it) Joseph and mother Ann. I've information coming down the line but that is as far as I've got going up.
Sarah
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Hi Sarah
Good to hear from a fellow Gough! I'm presuming you're of the Joseph - b 1812 married Mary- line? I always presumed they were childless! Would love to have any info from your Joseph down.
In return, I can give you loads on your Jo's bothers - William and George, if you're interested.
Regarding 'up' the line, I have Jo(b1782) married to Hester (Phelps) and,as you say, the son of another Jo(b1740) married to Ann (Butler) There it goes cold, although Jo(b1707 - Ashleworth) is a possibility.
I think there's a way to send more 'personal' messages - e-mail addresses etc. but can't think how at the moment.
PS This isn't a cunning plan to lay claim to my Cider Press is it?
Sprout
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Hi Sprout
Yes I am related to the Jo 1812.
This is the line so far:
Joseph (b 1812) married Mary Hewinson (b 1821),
their son is Robert Gough (b 1853 in Cheltenham) married Eliza Day Saunders (b 1853 in Swindon, Wilts)
their daughter is Clara Alice Gough (b 1878 in Swindon) married Charles Frederick Beamish (b 1871 in Paddington, London)
their son is Herbert Frederick Beamish (b 1912 in Chippenham, Wilts) my grandfather.
Thanks for the information going up the line that is really help.
Cheers
Sarah
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Sorry it's helpful not help, I sound illiterate, I may need some help after all !
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