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Sprout
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I’ve managed to trace my grandfather’s line back to George Gough, born Minsterworth, Glouc. 1815. By 1861 he is still in Minsterworth and the landlord of the Ship Inn, but google tells me there is no such pub in town…..has it sailed away?
Help appreciated.
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ev
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hi sprout
can see him 0n the 1871 census listed as publican,
with wife sarah
no mention of ship inn
perhaps the information in not on google
we have a ship inn near us and the last time i
went there i got wrecked 
ev
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Sprout
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1861 census says Ship Inn...or ship something....I'm sinking fast....
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ev
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sprout
join the crew 
google ship inn gloucester
there a few entries come up but not many many entries
come up for just ministerworth
i'm not familiar with the area so i don't know if theres any matches
on the 1881 census he is a farm labourer
ev
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Arranroots
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Hi Sprout
Hoping to bail you out!
I think it might be the pub that is now known as the Severn Bore.
The census shows the Ship Inn is near a place called Naight House, which still exists - postcode GL2 8JJ.
Here it is on a map:
click here
Now compare with the Severn Bore, postcode GL52 8JX
Not far away?
http://www.rootschat.com/links/028z/
What do you think?
kind regards, Arranroots
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK) |
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Sprout
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Thanks Arranroots....problem solved I think...now I can up-anchor and look for a sunset.
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If you have access to the census, it is often a good idea to search a few pages either side of your family for "landmarks" that might still be there.
I am sure the present owners of the pub would know a little of its history - perhaps a phone call or a visit to said hostelry would be beneficial?
kind regards, Arranroots 
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK) |
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Sprout
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I think a visit....it's a tough life this ancestry game - could I get a research grant?
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Yes, I should think the council would keep you afloat!
Let us know how you get on...
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK) |
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Keziahemm
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Until about 10 years ago the Severn Bore pub was called The Bird in Hand.
Was closed for a while this year now open under new management.
A good place to look for information and history on Gloucestershire pubs, when it's up and running again, http://www.easywell.co.uk/pubs/
Susan
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Herefordshire: Mytton Lincolnshire: Ingham Northamptonshire: Knight (Welford); Linnell; Gaudern; Staffordshire (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Somerset: Bailey; Lewis Warwickshire: ( Alcester, Henley in Arden, Aston Cantlow): Lewis; Casey/Keasey Warwickshire, (Birmingham suburbs) Knight; Lewis Yorkshire (Bradford): Ingham Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov |
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Hi Susan
I don't suppose you remember what it was called in the census??
Sorry to mislead you Sprout - must have been another one in the vicinity I guess.
Susan and I could do a spot of detective work around the local bars ...
(I did notice a Ship in Newnham, but that is a wee bit further away than you would like)
Any other ideas Susan?
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK) |
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Keziahemm
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Have been looking at a history of Minsterworth - The Bird in Hand was in being as early as 1831 and the licensees are recorded from 1856. There is Mermaid Cottage at the Naight once thought to have been a river side inn.
Will do some more digging; all this talk of pubs and me being tea total 
Susan
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Herefordshire: Mytton Lincolnshire: Ingham Northamptonshire: Knight (Welford); Linnell; Gaudern; Staffordshire (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Somerset: Bailey; Lewis Warwickshire: ( Alcester, Henley in Arden, Aston Cantlow): Lewis; Casey/Keasey Warwickshire, (Birmingham suburbs) Knight; Lewis Yorkshire (Bradford): Ingham Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov |
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Sprout
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Thanks for the help you two......Susan have a lemonade on me. Meantime I've dropped anchor and gone fishing.....
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Keziahemm
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Cheers Sprout
Have been looking at later census (1881-1901) for any clues as to which house could be the Ship Inn where George Gough was in 1861. I'm pretty confident it's one of the cottages at the Naight, an area near the river, so conceivably this could be Mermaid Cottage, to confuse things this was formerly called Memorial Cottage!
Naight House is named on the census, 1901 the parish clerk Wintour Stephens is in residence RG13/2418 folio 41 page 4, he was parish clerk from 1883-1908.
In 1871, 1881 and 1891 Naight House was the home of Richard Clifford Stephens.
There are several cottages either side, in 1881 in address all it says is N.K., very helpful (RG11/2525 folio 115 page 9).
1891 there are three cottages enumerated as The Naight and two Naight Cottage (RG12/2007 folio 91 page 9).
Not much further forward but I believe in the right area of Minsterworth to be your Ship Inn.
Regards
Susan
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Herefordshire: Mytton Lincolnshire: Ingham Northamptonshire: Knight (Welford); Linnell; Gaudern; Staffordshire (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Somerset: Bailey; Lewis Warwickshire: ( Alcester, Henley in Arden, Aston Cantlow): Lewis; Casey/Keasey Warwickshire, (Birmingham suburbs) Knight; Lewis Yorkshire (Bradford): Ingham Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov |
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Sprout
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Appreciate your work....make it a lemonade AND packet of crisps.
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