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Gillg
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There is another pub in Minsterworth now called The Apple Tree, address aptly Watery Lane GL1 8JQ, but it's not as close to the river as the Severn Bore.
The district is famous for its apples, see
http://www.orchard-group.uklinux.net/glos/apples/index.php
Unless your Ship Inn is no longer an inn, I would go for the Severn Bore, where you can sit sipping your cider and watching surfers fall over on the Big Wave.
Cheers,
Gillg
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Keziahemm
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Hi
As mentioned in earlier post the Severn Bore is out of the equation as it was formerly The Bird in Hand from c 1831, also falls within the boundary of Westbury on Severn parish. The Apple Tree didn't become an inn until the early 1900s, both of these pubs are on the main A48 road.
According to 1861 census the Ship Inn was in the area of the Naight, a part of Minsterworth village off the main road down towards the Church and The Street, a very pretty area near to the river Severn.
I still believe the best option is Mermaid Cottage at the Naight, which, according to locals, was formerly a river-side inn.
Sprout is going to have a good time viewing these places 
Regards
Susan 
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Sprout
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I think you're proabably right Susan but I have one further explanation: Having just 'google-mapped' the area, there seems to be a carpark (probably for the church) two cottages to the left (west?) of Naight House. The Ship Inn was also two cottages away from Naight House on the 1861 census. Ergo whatsit....the Ship Inn was where the carpark is now!
What do you think Miss Marple? I could send you a concrete drill - the anchor might still be underneath?
Sprout.
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Arranroots
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A concrete drill??
Is that anything like a chocolate teapot??
 
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Arranroots....I knew I'd get 'picked up' re. concrete drill, I'd ask what its proper name is but guess that's a new thread.
Wish I could join you Susan but have to go and brush up on my road-building vocabulary.....a photo would be lovely! ( Not of you, the area....I could swap it for a very fine snap of a headstone in Dunster Churchyard?....with a robin perched on it....)
Once again, appreciate your help
Sprout
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ev
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sprout
following the tale of ship inn with interest
would it be a "masons drill"
looks like a normal drill but the cutting blades are welded on to the
fluted shaft
the cutting blades would be heat treated and very hard but cheaper
than making the whole drill like this
i notice all the smileys now have santa hats and its still november
hope you find your anchor
ev
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Sprout
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ev
wouldn't there be an apostraphe in "masons drill"?
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ev
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hi sprout
no but an "apostrophe" maybe should be there
perhaps there was a young apprentice who took care of the
mason's drill
rodger the cabin boy ?
ev 
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Oo-er Matron.
Ev, you must understand this is a forum for deep and serious debate not....Carry on up the Family Tree....
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Gillg
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Sprout
You are not going to like this - I passed through Minsterworth today, but was unable to stop, as I was a passenger in the car of someone who was rushing to work. 
It's a long, rambling village along the A48, but I did notice that there were only 3 streets on the river side of the road - Pound St, Church St and Broadway Lane, all narrow lanes. So I passed the top of the lane where the Ship Inn must once have been (assume it was Church Street from what has been said earlier), but never got a chance to inspect that car park 
You might like to order Terry Moore Scott's "A History of Minsterworth" from your local library. http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~cotswold/minst.htm for more information.
Gillg
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hi sprout
hope you find your ship inn
put me down as a cheeky monkey
didn't sailors have them instead of parrots ?
and they are good at climbing trees
yours
saucy sally(sorry ev  )
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Sprout
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Perhaps next time gillg. (Once you've passed church on right, carpark should be immediately on left.) Thanks for tip on book.
Ev, I think you should go to your crow's nest and think about what you've done.
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Keziahemm
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Hi Sprout
Good news is believe have found your Ship Inn alias Poolend House, the bad news it’s derelict! Why I think they are one and the same this is the address the Goughs were living according to 1881/1891/1901 census and is also where the Ship Inn would have been according to 1861/1871 census.
Daughter and I took a walk round Minsterworth village today trying to follow in the footsteps of census enumerator, looks like a different route was taken for each census but whichever way you go leads back to Poolend House, situated at the Naight.
We met an old boy of the village who hadn’t heard of the Ship Inn but had recollections of Poolend, he said this was once a well known cider making cottage but now was difficult to get to over the fields down on the river bank. We did find the cottage only the lower half now standing. Have taken some photos and will post in the common room (can’t attach on this board). Couldn’t get a very good one of the front – danger of slipping into the river, me that is not the cottage, didn’t fancy a ducking! Along from Poolend (approx quarter mile) is the Naight House and Mermaid Cottage
When we got back home found an old map c 1920s and low and behold it shows Poolend House (copy posted in common room).
In the Gloucestershire Militia survey of 1522 for Minsterworth
William Gowgh 20s (goods) bow & arrows (arms)
Robert Gowgh
How certain are you that the christening of Joseph Gough 1797 is yours? I note on one census he states birth as Rodley which is just down the river from Minsterworth within Westbury on Severn parish, may be worth a look at that area.
Didn’t need the “concrete drill” after all!
Regards
Susan
Photos here http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,271815.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,271814.0.html
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Sprout
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Fascinating stuff! Thankyou so much yet again Susan….Ive always felt as if I have cider in the blood ( I fall over a lot) Just my luck it’s derelict….guess I owe your daughter a lemonade now.
I went to common room but wasn’t sure where to look….is Poolend east or west of Church? Maybe I could google- map it.
Looks like the Goughs have been around Minsterworth a while!
Let me explain my reasoning re. Joseph:
Using FamilySearch.org (IGI) I’ve found the following information:
Joseph Gough (b:1812 – Minsterworth, Glouc.) Parents Joseph Gough and Esther.
George Gough (b:1815 – Minsterworth, Glouc.) Parents Joseph Gough and Esther.
William Gough (b:1817 – Minsterworth, Glouc.) Parents Joseph Gough and Esther.
I thought it was fairly safe to presume they’re the same family.
The only possible, nearby birth for Joseph senior would be 1797 in Maisemore, Glouc.(IGI) but this would mean he was 15 when he had Joseph junior.
This seemed unlikely but I have since found them on the 1841 census,(Westbury on Severn, Glouc., see below.) and Joseph+Esther are indeed living with another Joseph just 15 ish years younger than his (probably) father. (Esther is almost 10 years older than her husband! William and George are accounted for elsewhere. )
I was aware that Joseph(b:1797) was in Rodley, Westbury on Severn by 1841, but presumed he moved there in later life.(i.e went Maisemore – Minsterworth – Rodley) The situation is further confused by son George saying he was born in Minsterworth in every census except 1871, when he suddenly wants to be born in Rodley! I’d presumed he’d found an old barrel of cider.
Why do you ask Miss Marple?.....what’s going on in that cunning mind of yours?
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