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raymondcecilmark
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On Byrne and Halpin, you might be interested in something I came across some time ago:-
...About 12 o'clock the people of Enniskerry were considerably enlivened, and something almost approaching to excitement was occasioned, by the appearance of three distinguished persons who walked most unostentatiously down the principal street of the little town. The form of one of the three was at once recognised as that of the most popular lord of the soil, and it very soon oozed out that his companions were none other than Mr Gladstone and Lord Talbot de Malahide. Opposite the National School the party met two well known local gentlemen, one of whom was Captain Halpin (a brother of the celebrated commander of the Great Eastern), and the other Mr Byrne, one of Lord Powerscourt's tenantry, and a gentleman somewhat largely engaged in farming pursuits. With both the ex-Premier, on being introduced by Lord Powerscourt, warmly shook hands and entered into conversation, principally on the subject of agriculture, to which it may be mentioned Captain Halpin now also devotes his attention. Mr Gladstone, amongst other inquiries, desired to know if Egyptian wheat was largely sown in Ireland, to which the burly and good-humoured-looking captain (the beau ideal, by the way, of a naval officer) replied that he believed that some of that description of wheat had come into the country, but that he had not used any of it himself. The Powerscourt National School (which receives a grant of £50 annually from Lord Powerscourt) was then visited. Mr. Gladstone inspected the hand writing of some of the pupils, and the sewing of the girls, with which he said he was much pleased. He also remarked the cleanliness of the children, and their comfortable, well clad appearance. The children sang "God save the Queen" very creditably, and when the right hon. gentleman took his departure cheered him... - Irish Times, Thurs, Nov 1, 1877.
I think you'll agree that this is an enormously rich extract.
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raymondcecilmark
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A continuation of one branch of the Halpin Family tree, which I began some time ago and hope to complete in the coming months.
The Rev. Nicholas John Halpin's eldest son:-
Nicholas John Halpin, of 5 Palmerston Road, Dublin, Sec. of Customs and Excise Dept. in Ire., b. 1818, educ. Portarlington Sch., and Trin. Coll. Dub (BA 1841), m. 8 Nov. 1848, Rebecca (d. 30 Jan. 1903), dau. of Michael Doherty, of Glen House, Co. Donegal, and d. 26 Nov. 1891, having had issue -
1. Nicholas John, ICS, b. 12 Sept. 1851; d, unm in India.
2. Edward Evelyn, b. 19 Oct. 1854, d. 3rd Feb. 1855.
3. Alfred Walter Charles, b. 20 Nov. 1855; d.s.p. in Australia.
4. William Henry (see below).
1. Rebecca, b. 19 Nov. 1849; d. 4 May, 1853.
2. Mary anne Isabella, b. 18th Nov. 1857, m. 17 April, 1882, William David Bradley, and d. 4 June, 1897.
3. Lucy Anne Victoria, m. 29 April, 1879, Richard Allen, and d. 25 July 1927.
4. Elinor Alexandra, m. 1stly, 1888, Major Arthur W. Carleton. She m. 2ndly, 1907, Charles Robert S Walker, and d. 25 Jan. 1950.
The yst son,
William Henry Halpin, of Ford Lodge, Cavan, Solicitor, b. 11 Aug. 1862, educ. Trin. Coll. Dub. (MA), m. 14 Sept. 1898, Caroline Isabella Emma (Ford Lodge, Cavan), dau. of Albert Hutton, JP, of Rockwood House, Swanlinbar, Co. Cavan, and d. 17 April, 1937, leaving issue,
1. John Ralph Halpin (see previous entry for details).
2. William Richard Crozier, ACA (1936), served in WW2 1939 - 1946, as Major, RASC, seconded to Treasury 1942 - 44, Dir. John Lewis Partnerships, Ltd. 1946 - 51, Sec. Lobitas Oilfields, Ltd. from 1952, Trustee and Chm., Finance Cttee. Empire Rheumatism Council (Hares Form, Great Stampford, Essex; 17 Burton Court, SW3; Junior Carleton Club); b. 28 June 1912, educ. Rugby and Corpis Christi College Camb. (BA 1933), m. 25 Nov 1939, Hilary Alicia, JP., LCC dau. of Lt.- Col. Gilbert Henry Keighley-Bell, MC, of Hurlingham Court, Putney, SW, and has issue'
1. Nicholas Richard, b. 10 april 1942.
1. Deborah Jane, b. 5 july 1944.
2. Emma Serena, b. 26 April, 1947.
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(by kind permission of Noel Farrel)
'Enniscorthy Roots' 1901
Brownswood;
Halpin William & Sarah; John, Margaret
1911;
Brownswood;
Halpin William & Sarah; John
Don't know if they are related, but they are the only family recorded there.
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BillW
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In relation to Halpins listed recently, the following was contributed by CARA as part of a Dublin response and I know she won't mind my sharing it here. It seems to include Captain Robert Halpin (Wicklow).
May no doubt have these but from Hibernain Magazine comes:
A Halpen North King Street married Miss Christie - Workmans Field Nr. Cabra Co Dublin in May 1807 page 320
John Halpen of Woodville Queens County married Mrs Swettenaham relict of Alderman Kilner city of Dublin Aug 1800 page 127
Paget Halpen of Maryboro Queens COunty married Miss Delane daughter of Solomon in june 1794 page 568
Prerogative wills of Ireland ( Index only)
Mary Halpen a widow of London dead by 1770
1876 Land Owners
1-Joseph Halpin - address Gowran Hall Kingstown ( co Leitim)
2-Margaret Halpin address Care of Michl Whelan Maryborough ( queens)
3- Nicholas J Halpin address -Custom House Dublin( Queens)
4-William Halpin- address great Common Lusk ( Dublin)
5-Matthew Halpin and Mathew Halpin Jnr address Richmond Fairview ( Dublin)
6-William Halpin -address Galloping Green Stillorgan ( Dublin)
7-R Halpin - Address Dublin ( Co Wicklow )
8- Rev Thomas B Halpin address Williamsfort Fransfort Kings COunty ( Louth)
9-W O HAlpin address Laurel Lodge Foxrock ( Dublin City county)
Raymond lists descendants of Nicholas Halpin here today, and last week, and there are a few William Halpins. I also have a couple of William Halpins descended from George Halpin and one of them is in this list, W O Halpin at Foxrock. Who may the other two be, at Great Common, Lusk, and Galloping Green, Stillorgan? To my limited knowledge, Foxrock itself was spun out of greater Stillorgan.
All best, Bill.
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raymondcecilmark
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Thankyou CARA. I've come across some of the Halpins you list but I tended to discount many of them as unrelated to the Wicklow Halpins. The Fairview Halpins are a shady lot - their surname is usually followed by a string of aliases. Must look them up again and make a note of them. Nicholas John Halpin, address Custom House, can be found above - he's the good Reverend NJ Halpin's eldest son.
Now - there are two very good discoveries in your list CARA which may well have a connection to the Wicklow Halpin's through the Rev. NJ's bloodline - I've encountered Paget before in the House of Commons Parliamentary papers and I'll revisit him shortly. The real discovery here though is John. It's an amazing coincidence, but I came across his marriage to Mrs Sweetenaham (?) only yesterday, again through the House of Commons website. I think Mrs Sweetenaham died not long after the marriage and my gut feeling is that both bride and groom were quite old when they tied the knot. John Halpen, or Halpin - he tended to spell his name both ways - was a Dublin bookseller/engraver/liberal and there is a good deal written about him but - until now - I have come across nothing about Woodville, Queens County. That is an extremely important detail, since the Rev. NJ Halpin's bloodline begins in Queens County, Portarlington, and the dates make the men contemporaries. John was hauled before Gratton's Parliament to testify in relation to a sensational libel case that split the ruling class apart at the time (around 1796) - he was released when he satisfied his interrogators that the offending pamphlet, while published by him on behalf of a prominent liberal MP, was not circulated publically but privately, among a few friends. I will return to the incident some other time, but if I'm right (and believe me there's no guarantee of that - I'm always confusing my Halpins) CARA may have uncovered something that locates the split in the Halpin ranks precisely where I thought it was - between the 1780s and 1810s, when, in reaction to the American and French Revolutions, Liberal and Tory formed diametrically opposed ideas about the ideal structure of society. Those Halpins who wanted a politically independent Ireland took their inspiration from three precedents - from England (ie Ireland's interests were best served by Union with Eng and Empire - the Rev. NJ Halpin...the liberals opposed this, and advocated Homerule, Catholic emancipation, etc - John Halpen, bookseller); from the United States (political independence, democracy - the Rev.'s son, Charles G Halpin(e)); or from France(here you come across the distillers - James and William - no political progress would be made in Ireland without bloodshed/revolution)...in many respects these approaches to political life in Ireland divided the Halpins throughout the 19th century - driving a wedge between Edwin and his Wicklow relatives, and carrying over into the 20th cent., where Willy became an assassin of sorts, leading a raid on a military vehicle in 1919 - 1920 Dublin, during which one young British soldier was shot dead, with another two dying in hospital soon afterwards...on that raid a young medical student, one of the raiding party, 'froze' during the shootout - according to Willy, who apparently never forgave himself - and was later caught by the British as he hid under a truck at the scene of the ambush. That lad's name was Kevin Barry, and they hung him a month later...With CARA's apparently insignificant discovery, we may be able to say that the disputes and the passions which led to Willy's actions in 1920s Dublin began in the 1790s, in Queens County, between John Halpin, school master, and John Halpin(en), engraver/bookbinder-seller, the former's disowned first cousin? At least now we may have somewhere to start the search that may answer that question once and for all. Take a bow CARA.
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Are you sitting down, Bill?
1833 (591) Report From the Select Committee on Dublin and Kingstown Ship Canal; with the minutes of evidence. - 10th july 1833.
George Halpin jnr called in and examined:
2376. What is your profession? - Civil Engineer.
2377. How long have you been so? - I was a pupil of the late Mr. Alexander Nimmo for eight years, and practicing for some time since; I have had pretty general experience in engineering works during my apprenticeship to him.
2378. Did you continue that apprenticeship with him until his death? - No, my apprenticeship expired about two years before his death.
2379. About three years ago? - About that.
2380. Are you aquainted with the Port of Dublin? - I am.
2381. What opportunity had you of aquiring the knowledge of the Port of Dublin? - My situation obliges me to have an opinion of it; I am obliged frequently to sound up and down it, in order to see what the lighters are doing in their dredging operations. I have been frequently from time to time ordered to make surveys of portions of that port to show what improvement was taking place.
2382. What is your situation? - Assistant Inspector of Works to the Ballast Board.
2383. Is your father the Inspector? - He is.
2384. Have you recently made soundings in Dublin? - I have.
2385. In the River and Bar? - River and Bar.
2386. Have you seen the map that is attached to the Ship Canal pamphlet? - I have, and this is one of them - [producing it].
2387. What do you say as to whether it be a correct or incorrect representation? - It is an extremely incorrect representation; I find it is a copy from a map published by Mr. Duncan in 1821; it purports to be a map describing the state of the Port in 1833, while it is taken figure for figure from Mr. Duncan's map of 1821, as I will show to the committee...
And so it goes for another four or five pages.
Mr. George Halpin called in and Examined by the Committee.
3378. What public situation do you hold? - Inspector of Works to the Ballast Board.
3379. How long have you known the Port of Dublin? - Since 1800.
3380. Have you been engaged in the works carried on for the improvement of the Port during that period? - I have.
3381. What were those works? - There were the building of five miles and a third of quays walls, mostly difficult of execution; raising, backing and securing a mile and 7-8ths of Pool Beg on the South Wall; building the Great North Wall breakwater, two miles long, nearly; building two graving slips; keeping in repair five miles of sea wall; and improving the line of the Liffey Channel throughout.
And so it goes on in similar vein for another four or five pages. Let me know if you can access these papers from Oz. All the best.
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raymondcecilmark
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I refer back to something Bill asked - about the meaning of the initials "FB" - I said I believe they represent the names Frederick and Bestall...Was it CARA, or perhaps Christopher, who said that one of the families the Wicklow Halpins married into were the Bestalls?
Also, I found this in my files, but it's accessible to everyone through the House of Commons website:
1894 [c.7488][c.7488-1]Deputy Keeper of public Records in Ireland: Twenty-sixth Report.
Halpin, Elizabeth and Isaac Orr - 1788 - Nature of record: M.L.(marriage licence)
Helen and Isaac Eades - 1995 - M.L.
Henry and Frances Jones - 1775 - M.L.
John, gentleman - 1737 - I (?).
Maria and Alexander Brairly - 1793 - M.L.
Mary and Henry Drennen - 1781 - M.L.
Patrick, Dublin - 1722 - O.W. (will?)
William Henry and Anne Crosthwaite - 1787 - M.L. (the Rev. NJ Halpin's parents).
In the 1900 edition of the same records we find George H. and Elizabeth Bourne - 1817 - M.L.There is an even more extensive list of Halpin names and corresponding records (which I'm assuming have since been destroyed) in the 1900 "Duty Keeper of Public Records in Ireland" ledger.
BillW - we might have found the surname of George snr's wife Elizabeth.
And take a look at the address listed in the following:
On the 25th ult. at Nuneaton, Warwickshire, by the Rev., RC Savage, vicar, Charles Boyton Halpin, Esq., of Lincoln's Inn, third son of the Rev. NJ Halpin of Seville Place, Dublin, to Margaret Grace, third daughter of William Milligan, Esq., MD of Nuneaton.
- Manchester Times, Sat. Feb. 3 1849.
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For what its worth;
BYRNE, EDWARD. Rank: Temp 2Lt. Regiment or Service: Duke of Cornwalls Light Infantry. Unit; 6th Battalion. 23-August-1917. Killed in Action. Supplementary information from De Ruvigny’s Roll of Honour; Eldest son of the late Henry Byrne, of Dunlavin, County Wicklow, by his wife, Mary daughter of Andrew Halpin and nephew of Patrick Byrne Ex-Superintendant of the Dublin Metropolitan Police, born in Dunlavin, County Wicklow, 8th Dec, 1886. Educated De La Salle College, Waterford; Leeds University and London University, was subsequently employed as Teacher under London City Council. Gazetted, 2nd Lieutenant, Duke of Cornwalls Light Infantry from the London University, O. T. C. 9th Oct 1915, trained at Weymouth and Wareham; served with the Expeditionary Force in France and Flanders from 9th Sept, 1916, took part in the fighting on the Somme, the battle of Arras and the fighting around Ypres. Was killed in action at Inverness Copse 23rd August, 1917, while leading his platoon into action. His Colonel wrote “He was killed instantaneously by a rifle bullet through the head whilst leading his platoon very gallantly. His loss is mourned by all ranks, by whom he was universally liked and admired. Grave or Memorial Reference: He has no known grave but is listed on Panel 80 to 82 and 163A on the Tyne Cot Memorial in Belgium.
Picking up on this mention of BYRNE married to HALPIN (probably in the 1890s), I realise that neither name is uncommon, particularly Byrne. However, again for what it may be worth, Mary Villiers Halpin, born c.1846 married a Patrick Byrne about 1868, probably in Dublin, and is mentioned in an 1870 deposition by her recently widowed mother as MARY BYRNE, widow, of Melbourne.
I don't as yet know what became of her after that but I have been informed that she had a daughter ANNIE BYRNE who, under the above circumstances, must have been born about 1869. It is possible mother and daughter may have returned to Ireland as other researchers and I have not been able to find further trace of them in Australia yet.
Bill.
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I came across the following some time ago, Bill, and include it here because it might prove useful in trying to situate two Halpin families within reach of each other. On the one hand, only lore, hearsay and a few incidental facts place them on the same tree. On the other hand, the history books have them down the street from each other - one in Custom House, the other a few hundred metres away in the Ballast Offices, across the Liffey (this is post-George snr's death). Separating the two is Burgh Quay (south side of the river), and there you can still see the late Georgian facade of the Corn Exchange, reputedly built by George snr in 1813.
From The Times, Sept. 07, 1844:
THE CUSTOM HOUSE - The vacancy in the landing department of this port, caused by the death of Mr. Purcell, searcher and coast-waiter, has been filled up by the Lords of the Treasury nominating Mr. E [surely a missprint] Halpin, son of the Rev. Mr. Halpin, of this city, to a junior landing waitership. The realization of the hope of Mr. Halpin has caused a corresponding despondency in some two or three hundred other claimants on the influence of the city members, who, it appears, were of late so inconveniently beset by the eager applications of their friends, that they deemed it more prudent to retire from Dublin than to be subject to the daily clamorous remonstrances of their disinterested supporters. - Dublin Freeman.
Bill, I'll return to George in the coming weeks. In the meantime I want to focus on those Halpins living in Wicklow during the 1800s, and on those directly related to them - specifically: Robert Wellington Halpin, Edwin Halpin, Stopford Halpin, George Halpin MD, Charles Halpin MD, Gen. William G Halpin and his co-conspirator Charles Grehan Halpin(e)...I have some terrific stuff to post on them. Cheers.
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ROYAL HUMANE SOCIETY
An interesting presentation took place on board the British and Irish Steam Packet Company's ss Lady Roberts. The hon. representative of the Society, Captain Thomas McCombie, attended, and presented Fireman Edwin Halpin with a framed vellum testimonial and a small monetary recognition for having, in a most praiseworthy manner, saved the life of Mrs. Margaret Winter, who he rescued on the night of the 17th December last, she having slipped into the river Liffey off the quay. Halpin ran considerable risk, and found great difficulty in saving Mrs. Winter, as the space between the vessel and the quay was very limited. In making the presentation, Captain McCombie spoke in most flattering terms of the assistance rendered by Andrew Welsh, donkeyman, and James Dowd, sailor. Captain Clarke, of the ss Lady Roberts, also spoke, and the presentation was made in presence of the ship's company.
- Irish Times, Saturday, March 3, 1906.
Edwin's son, James (my grandfather), was forever 'saving' people from drowning, whether they were in trouble or not. Until I found the notice above, I had no idea he had been trying to repeat his father's exploits.
A FALL BETWEEN THE ROYAL MAIL STEAMER AND THE PIER.
On Saturday evening a rather alarming accident occurred at the Carlisle Pier which but for the presence of mind and courage of a seaman named Halpin might have had a fatal termination. The Royal Mail steamer Leinster had been brought alongside the pier and was being admired by a railway porter, named John Mulcahy, when he suddenly took a fit and fell into the harbour between the boat and the wharf. One of the sailors, named Robert Halpin, who witnessed the accident, immediately dropped along a rope to the water's edge and caught the unfortunate man by the hair when he came up and held him until a boat was brought to the rescue. Mulcahy was landed at the Victoria Wharf and taken to St. Michael's Hospital, where he was attended by Dr. Stevenson, who could give no opinion in his regard, as he could not speak.
- Freeman's Journal, Monday June 3rd 1889.
Was Edwin attempting to emulate the heroics of his brother, Robert? I can't answer that question, since I can't accurately identify the Halpin named in the piece above, nor do I know what became of Robert after he took over his father's duties as secretary of the Wicklow Harbour Board after Robert senior died in late 1883. I'd welcome clarity on the matter, if anyone can provide it.
SAD DEATH OF A YOUNG WICKLOW SAILOR.
On Sunday the meloncholy news reached Wicklow of the death by drowning at sea, on the 5th December last, of Mr. Henry G Halpin, eldest son of Captain Richard Halpin, of Wicklow. Deceased, a fine promising young man of 19, well known and deservedly popular with every inhabitant of Wicklow, was an apprentice on board the ship Belcamah, bound from London to San Francisco. The vessel was in mid-ocean, and Mr. Halpin was engaged in his duty when he was knocked overboard by a sail. Life buoys were immediately thrown out, the ship hove to, and a boat lowered with all possible speed. For some minutes the poor young man could be plainly seen from the vessel swimming strongly and well, but before the boats could reach him he suddenly disappeared and was not seen again. After lying to till every chance of recovering the unfortunate young man had disappeared the vessel proceeded on her voyage. The reception of the news in Wicklow caused the deepest grief and regret, for by all classes, both high and low, the ill-fated youth was deservedly esteemed and respected. All the vessels in the river, of which there were a considerable number at the time, hoisted their flags half-mast high as a token of sorrow and respect, while his bereaved family had the melancholy satisfaction of receiving countless messages of condolence and sympathy from all parts as soon as their loss became known. They must possess a further satisfaction in the knowledge that he died while doing his duty in the profession he had chosen - a profession the most useful and honourable a Briton can choose - one the very dangers and perils of which constitute a great portion of its charm for youth, but which, during five hundred years, has laid the foundation and built up the structure of our national and commercial greatness. Our young townsman has fallen a victim to one of the thousand dangers daily encountered by those "who go down to the sea in ships" but while we deplore his loss and sympathize most sincerely with his sorrowing relatives, we cannot help reflecting with a feeling of pride that it is the youth of our country such as he, who devote themselves by choice to a nautical life, knowing well and fearlessly braving the dangers that beset them, looking death daily in the face, and meeting him bravely and firmly when called upon - that have made our national flag known and honoured at all the ends of the earth, and our national language spoken by millions at the Antipodes.
It may be mentioned that this is the first death by drowning which has occurred in the Halpin family, although, some years ago, four brothers of that family were at sea at the same time and, of course, exposed to the constant dangers of a sea-faring life.
- The Wicklow Newsletter, March 25th 1883.
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It's hard to exaggerate the value of a mark of respect like the one above. Apart from its obvious merits as a piece of journalism (they wrote well and with flair and worldliness in those days) it tells us a great deal about the Halpins of Wicklow, about the political sensibilities of the community they belonged to - they certainly considered themselves servants of Empire - and about what from our perspective might seem dated and archaic codes of honour and morality. I know that my great-great grandfather (RW Halpin) subscribed to this very British worldview, but that he did so for wholly 'pragmatic' reasons - the world was what it was, regardless of what one's personal views on the matter might be. Just how loyally he stuck to that philosophy can be seen in his testimony to two Royal Commissions of Inquiry which visited Wicklow town in the years 1854-55 and 1877 (respectively - Royal Com. to inquire into State of Fairs and Markets in Ireland; and Royal Com. to inquire into Local Gov. and Taxation of Towns in Ireland (Belfast, Trim and Wicklow), both of which contain minutes of evidence). During the latter inquiry in particular, despite some deservedly critical comments from one of the commissioners about his personal conduct in his capacities as Town clerk and clerk to the Harbour Board, my great-great grandfather took the rap for what was clearly a collective 'misuse' of public monies by the town commissioners (a subject I hope more local historians find the time to discuss). Throughout this inquiry RW Halpin was not simply displaying extraordinary gall before his interrogators, he was protecting friends and family from possibly criminal prosecution - he was protecting their good names and reputations. That kind of 'honour' was not well regarded by RW's son, Edwin, who was very much a Parnellite and a modernist. In fact the whole worldview buttressing RW's conduct was eventually to be blown to pieces on the battlefields of France and Belgium, where his grandsons James and Cecil - both barely literate Catholics from one of the worst slums in Europe - fought for the 1st Royal Dublin Fusiliers (from1914-18...Jim spent the entire war in combat and returned to Dublin mute, gassed and shellshocked to recuperate at Leopardstown Hospital in Foxrock). William, older brother of James and Cecil, meanwhile fought members of the Royal Dublin Fusiliers at home on the streets of the capital - his story, and the stories of his brothers and sister, will be told at a future date, but I am not the first Halpin to wonder what remains in us of the 'ethic' so diligently practiced and defended by Robert Wellington Halpin, and the rest of Wicklow's Protestant community, during the last decade or two of Victoria's reign. Has time wiped out all trace of that old Anglo-Irish attitude? Is there such a thing as a 'Halpin character' and how much of it has been altered by the history of the intervening years? Is it sensible to even ask such questions? One of the reasons so many visit a site like RootsChat is to establish some kind of connection and continuity between themselves and their forebears, so the questions I ask here are not as self-indulgent as they might seem.
WICKLOW.
The Soiree Musicale That Never Came Off:-
Walter Sorrell, alias Martin, was brought before Samuel [illigible], Esq., R.M., on Wednesday, on the charge of obtaining money by false pretenses. It will be remembered that the prosecution was instituted by the Crown at the suit of Mr. Edwin Halpin, who, having read a printed circular, announcing a "soiree musicale" in the Marine Hotel on friday evening, the 17th September, went to the hotel on that evening, and paid 1s 6d to the accused for admission. He alleges that the accused decamped by the half-past eight train, and that no entertainment whatever took place. Mr George H Major, Sessional Crown Solicitor, prosecuted, and Mr. Charles Coates. BL, instructed by Mr. Valentine Duff, defended. Mr. Kynasten Edwards, Mr. Robert Halpin, detective Cully, and the manager of the Marine Hotel gave evidence in addition to that given on Monday, the 3rd inst. On the application of Mr. Major, the case was sent for trial at the ensuing Wicklow Spring assizes, bail to be accepted for the appearance of the accused.
- Irish Times, Friday October 15 1875.
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This case, which made him the laughing stock of the British Isles (it was reported everywhere), did more to drive a wedge between Edwin and his community than anything else, including the political issues which he was so fond of citing years afterwards. The suit was not instituted by Edwin (he was simply the front man) but by his father and some of the town commissioners, all of whom had been roped into Sorrel's ruse and publically embarrassed by the incident. Their decision to seek prosecution was no doubt the worst thing they could have done if it was their public reputations they were trying to restore, and in some respects it exposes them as an insular people with very narrow horizons - which contradicts what I said above about RW being a man of the world...I suppose they were naive about the interest the media would take in the case. They shouldn't have been, because Sorrell had convinced the good folk of Wicklow that the Italian Opera, led by Florence Marryat (she can be Googled), a prolific and immensely popular novelist of the time, as well as being a singer of repute (the Madonna of her day?), would be performing at the Marine Hotel the following night, which is why the town commissioners were so quick to notify the aristocrisy and landed gentry of the surrounding district. At any rate, I'll return at a later date to give a summary of the trial, since Ms Marryat herself appeared at it as a witness. I wonder if the Wicklow Town Council has a transcript of that trial, because it would probably contain Edwin's testimony, which I'd very much like to read. Would anyone know - can anyone help?
LOSS OF THE SHIP OUZEL GALLEY OF DUBLIN.
The loss of the ship Ouzel Galley, of and for Dublin, with a valuable cargo of sugar, was announced Friday at Lloyd's. She was from Trinadad, and on the 1st of last month, when in lat. 33.43, long. 64.18, she encountered a severe hurricane from the N.W. She was struck by a tremendous sea, which killed the man at the wheel, broke both thighs of the chief officer, fractured the legs of a seaman, and injured Captain Halpin [I think this might be Captain RC Halpin's brother, - the one who met Gladstone (see above) - rather than the Captain himself] and two others of the crew. The captain would have been washed overboard but for his legs getting entangled in the chains of the wheel, which was demolished. The bulwarks were stove, and the after-hatch broken away, so that the sea went into the hold. The ship had sprung a fearful leak, and was abandoned, when the crew, on the 4th, were picked up by the Ann E. Hooper, from Liverpool to Baltimore, in a very exhausted condition. The ship and cargo are reported to have been very heavily insured.
- Irish Times, Tuesday May 24 1859.
I'll leave things there for the time being. When I resume, I'll focus on putting some substance behind the claims my brother made in the posting that began this plotting of the extended Wicklow Halpin family tree. I'll prove that Charles Grehan Halpin(e) did not, as his potted-biographers claim, alter his name to dissociate himself from his father, the Rev. NJ Halpin (Ed. of the Hi-Tory newspaper the Dublin Evening Mail), but to try to dissociate himself from a phase of petty criminality. Cheers.
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Hi Christopher and others,
I was facinated to find, only on Saturday last the chat on the Halpin Family. I have some information on the Wicklow Halpins. On Wednesday 22nd April, I attended a lecture, given by Mr Jim Rees, a local historian and author, who has written books on Capt Halpin of the Great Eastern Fame. It was part of Internationas Day for Monuments & Sites 2009, and hosted by Wicklow County Council in association with ICOMOS Ireland. The heritage Officess for Wicklow Co. Co. can be contacted at
dburns[at]wicklowcoco.ie
As an amateure genealogist living in Wiklow Town I have copied the 1901 & 1911 Census for the town only, and try to keep it up to date if I have any information on Births, Marriages or Deaths after this time.
Census of 1901 Wicklow Town b1 Wentworth Place 62/63. Private Dwelling with 2 out offices = 1 stabe & 1 coach house. All 3 persons were Church of Ireland and could read & Write.
1 Eliza Halpin, head of household, age 70 yrs [bc 1831] Occ = Income from House property, Widow, born Co Carlow.
2 Ida I Halpin, daughter age 36 yrs [bc 1863] Assistant Registrar, single born Wicklow
3 Mary Jane Maxwell, servant age 25 yrs General Domestic Servant, single Born Co Wicklow
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Census of 1901 Wicklow Town b2 Wentworth Place 62/63. Private Dwelling with 3 out offices, stabe, coach house & store. 4 Family members ere C of I.
1 James Henry Halpin, head of house,could R & W. age 40 yrs, Phisian & Surgeon DK & GC.PLMCSI. married born Wicklow
2 Adelaide Maude wife, could R & W 29 yrs old. born Wexford
3 James Raymond son, age 1 yr born Wicklow
4 Martha Florence Sutton, Sister-in-Law c of I, could r & w, single, born Wexford.
5 Catherine MacNamara, servant R.C. age 30 yrs housemaid, Dom Serv. single born Co Wexford.
6 Annie Furlong, R.C. age 20 yrs, Nurse Dom. Serv. single born Co Wexford
7 Elizabeth Davis R.C. age 28 yrs Cook Com. Serv. sinhgle born Co Wexford.
Census 1911 Wicklow Town b2 Wentworth Place 65/62. Private Dwelling 5 windown in front of 2nd class house. 9 rooms occupied by 9 persons, with 5 out offices. Family members were C of I.
1 James H Halpin, head of house, could R & W. age 50 yrs, General Practioner FRCP & Surgeon Ireland. married born Wicklow
2 Adelaide Maud wife, could R & W 39 yrs . Married 13 yrs, 4 children born 4 alive, born Wexford
3 James Raymond Halpin son, age 11 yr, scholar, born Wicklow
4 Robert Everst Halpin, son age 9 yrs scholar born Wexford.
5 Damaris Margaret Halpin daughter age 5 yrs born Wicklow
6 George Herbert son age 5 months born Wicklow
7 Nora Guin..... age 25 yrs, Nurse Dom. Serv. single. born Tipperary.
8 Mary Ronan, Roman Catholic age 36 yrs, Cook, don. servant, signle born Wexford.
9 Johanna Clovey R.C. age 34 yrs Housemaid, dom. servant, single born Wexford
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Now for Memorial Cards of this family:
1 "Captain Thomas J. Halpin, who died at Monastery House, Ennisketty Co Wicklow on the 2nd June 1878, in the 54th year of his age.
2 Stopford William Halpin, who died at Arklow February 27th 1885 aged 61 yrs - prayer...
3 Richard Matthew Halpin (Wicklow) who died December 15th, 1889, Aged 64 years. Interred in Wicklow Churchyard.
4 Maria Griffith Gibson, Died at 18 College Green, Dublin ...prayer..
5 Louisiana, Eldist & dearly beloved daughter of George H and Eliza Halpin, who fell asleep in Jesus The 11th of February 1887 aged 24 years.
6 George Halbert Halpin, who fell asleep in Jesus The 21st of June 1887 Aged 66 years ... prayer
Two other memorial cards I dont know if they mean anything, but I was given them with the Halpin ones.
Anne Bayley, who died at Moneygrath, Myshall, Co Carlow. December 11, 1883. ..prayer... and
Dr. Samuel Hawkes of Woodland Cottage, Wanstead, who peacefully passed away on Thursday, May 21st, 1891 aged 48 years".
Halpin- May 20th at Wentworth place, Wicklow Eliza, widow of the late Dr. George H. Halpin.
Saturday May 23, 1903.
Obituary Mrs G.H. Halpin Wicklow.
"The above esteemed lady, who was the widow of the late Dr. George H. Halpin and mother of ?Dr. J. H. Halpin, Medical Officer of Health of Wicklow and of Capt. R.G. Halpin, passed away after an illness lasting for a considerable time at her residence, Wentworth -place, on Wednesday evening last. The deceased lady was held in the vewry greatest respect by the people of Wicklow, and the sincere sympathy of the entire community goes out to the members of her family, who are bereaved by her demise.
The funeral took place yesterday to the Parish Churchyard, where the Rev. Canon Rooke, M.A.. R.D.; and the Rev. G.H.
Christie conducted the Office for the Burial of the Dead.
Chief mourners were-Dr. James H. Halpin, Captain R.G. Halpin, sons; and Dr. RichardHalpin, Arklow, nephew......
Christmas Tree in Rathnew School-house. The Wicklow Newslater & County Advertiser, Wicklow. Sat 2nd Jan 1897 p.4.
Hope this will be of some help. J.M.F.
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Doyle, Malone, Ryan, Wicklow. Murray of Arklow.
(O)Carroll of Annamoe, & Cornagower, Brittas, Wicklow, & Co Carlow. Waters, Haughton, Leviston, Goggin. Kavanagh Wicklow. Lavender and Newman of Ballyhad, Rathdrum.
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Hi Raymond, Now I know where we Aussies get our rebel streak from! Sad about the records. Julia (Villiers)Halpin was mentioned by family over here as a French Hugenot. Your research is much appreciated I just love the quality info you have discovered! Like the examination in chief formats on George Halpin Jnr and Snr. To actually read their own words was such an experience!If we are defeated by history on mapping the Halpin Dublin Wicklow relationship then maybe when the cost is reasonable a DNA test might help. Of course thats assuming a relative hasn't been in someone elses sheets at some time in history to interfere with the DNA chain. Maybe we can keep the DNA test up our sleeve as a last resort. The good thing is if it does show a genetic link then our two streams of Halpins will have some time come from a common family. I was only a small child at the time but remember quite vividly being told by elderly relatives about our Halpin family links to the laying of the cable and mention of several family members on the cable ship. Including the story about fears of sabotage and another family member working on the actual section dropping the cable into the sea from the ship. Kind regards Kim ps I'm not sure on how to copy Bill
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