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Cara
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Hi i have just found out that i have Halpin's that come from Wicklow,how would i go about finding him there.
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Hello Nina, When did your Halpin ancestors live in Wicklow? There was a photograph in the Mourne Observer, "Man About Town" page, at the end of April last year , of Herbert Halpin's Entertainers at Newcastle, Co. Down, Ireland during the summer season 1909. There were twelve of them including one lady. Christopher Hi Christopher, Halpin family married into these families:_ 1- Bestall 2-Wheatly/Wheatley 3- Saunders 4-Johne 5- Wholohan 6-Kennedy See a connection then cotact me I do have more on them Cheers Cara
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Hi Cara,
Bestall and Johne don't appear with a Halpin in the same parish, nor do they appear in the Valuation, but Halpin / Holohan, Halpin / Kennedy, Halpin / Saunders and Halpin / Wheatley households are recorded in the same parish in the Primary Valuation property survey of 1848-64.. One of the counties in which four of the surnames on your list appeared was Wicklow.
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I will attempt to find the exact information you're looking for. I have it somewhere, but I may need a week or two to put it all together. I hope you don't mind the delay. As for Edwin and Marianne's address - initially, during the early years of their marriage, they lived in Wexford town, I believe. Later, around the time Bridget was born (1894?), they lived at 26 Hawthorne Tce., North Strand, Dublin. Despite a temporary change of address at around the time of the census in 1911, the Halpins called Hawthorne Tce a family home for a couple of generations. I've read the 1901 census and the info gleaned from that will be included in the next email. Can you locate any photos of Edwin and Marianne? Until next time, cheers, RCMH.
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Ann doesnt have any photos of Edwin and Marianne as she never knew who they were until now, only that her grandparents were William Halpin and Matilda Henry. I am slowly finding out info but cant access the 1901 census so I will wait until you send it to me. Was Bridget Edwin and Marianne's daughter? Whatever info you have I will be most grateful for and dont mind the delay. Thanks
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Dear Raymond, Thought I'd say hullo from Perth Western Australia. Your information on the Halpins is terrific! I noticed your note on the brothers Nicholas and John 's separate lines. I descend from George Halpin snr and his son Jnr , civil engineers and lighthouse commissioners. George Halpin Jnr's son another George Halpin migrated to Australia. I've a photo of the youngest George and his family taken in the 1870's in the USA. They seemed to travel a lot! His daughter Mary Halpin married Alfred Mettam. They are my great grand parents. My great Aunt Fran visited the family in Ireland just after the first world war and spoke of a lovely family house in Dublin. As children we had been told of Captain Halpin's achievements and other Halpin relatives had also worked on the Great Eastern to provide trusted services in the cable laying itself as there had been concerns about possible sabotage previously. I was never clear on where we actually linked to captain Robert Halpin. Your info seems to be clearing the haze if I'm reading right John Edmund Halpin is the father of George Halpin Snr and James Halpin. My email is (*) kind regards Kim mettam.
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Dear Raymond, Thought I'd say hullo from Perth Western Australia. Your information on the Halpins is terrific! I noticed your note on the brothers Nicholas and John 's separate lines. I descend from George Halpin snr and his son Jnr , civil engineers and lighthouse commissioners. George Halpin Jnr's son another George Halpin migrated to Australia. I've a photo of the youngest George and his family taken in the 1870's in the USA. They seemed to travel a lot! His daughter Mary Halpin married Alfred Mettam. They are my great grand parents. My great Aunt Fran visited the family in Ireland just after the first world war and spoke of a lovely family house in Dublin. As children we had been told of Captain Halpin's achievements and other Halpin relatives had also worked on the Great Eastern to provide trusted services in the cable laying itself as there had been concerns about possible sabotage previously. I was never clear on where we actually linked to captain Robert Halpin. Your info seems to be clearing the haze if I'm reading right John Edmund Halpin is the father of George Halpin Snr and James Halpin. My email is (*) kind regards Kim mettam. more info Commissioner for lighthouses advised the followingThe following is all we know about the Halpins— George Halpin was appointed as Inspector of Works to the Corporation for Preserving and Improving the Port of Dublin in 1800. This was the Port Authority for Dublin, also known as the Ballast Board. Halpin was a builder by trade, with no academic engineering qualifications. He was responsible for supervising various engineering works around Dublin Port, from Sutton on the north side of Dublin Bay to Bullock Harbour on the south. In 1810 the Ballast Board was made responsible for the lighthouses around the coast of Ireland, and the Board extended Halpin’s responsibilities by appointing him Inspector of Lighthouses as well as Inspector of Works. Halpin was an administrator of exceptional ability. Under his direction the Ballast Board established an effective management structure for the lighthouse service, standardised the level of service provided, and regularised the employment of lighthouse keepers. Gradually during the early nineteenth century a proper marine aids to navigation infrastructure was put in place. George Halpin died suddenly in July 1954 while carrying out lighthouse inspections. His date of birth is unknown. However, his headstone in Mount Jerome Cemetry, Dublin, gives his age at the time of death as 75 years. When the Ballast Board took over responsibility for the Irish Lighthouses in 1810 there were only 14 lighthouses around the Irish Coast. By 1867, when responsibility was transferred to the Commissioners of Irish Lights, there were 72. George Halpin directed the construction of most of the 58 additional lighthouses, and of a number of others subsequently discontinued because their location proved ineffective. He also oversaw the modernisation and re-equipping of the previously existing lighthouses. This was in addition to supervising the construction of new docks, bridges and other projects for the expanding Dublin port - a remarkable achievement. So far as I am aware, virtually nothing is known of his family history. The Ballast Board kept very few records of their employees and certainly did not record private details of their personal lives. In any case there are almost no records extant prior to 1900. We do know, however, that his son, also George, who was a qualified civil engineer, was employed by the Board as assistant Inspector of Works and assistant Inspector of Lighthouses from 1830 and when George Halpen senior died George Halpin junior was promoted to the post of Inspector of Works & Superintendent of Lighthouses. A History of The Port of Dublin by H.A. Gilligan (published by Gill & Macmillen Ltd, Goldenbridge, Dublin 8; 1988; ISBN 0-7171-1578-X) gives an excellent overview of the achievements of the two George Halpins. There was also a Robert Halpin who was chief officer and later master of the Great Eastern, originally a passenger paddle steamer which was later converted to a cable layer and which laid the first transatlantic submarine cable from Valentia Island, Co Kerry, to New York. We have no information to indicate whether Robert Halpin was a relative of the George Halpins (*) Moderator Comment: e-mail removed in accordance with RootsChat policy, to avoid spamming and other abuses. Please use the Personal Message (PM) system for exchanging personal data.
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Re George Halpin Snr and Jnr. The note from the Irish Lighthouse Commissioners cited a date which was incorrect instead of July 1954 it should read July 1854.
I will also include the letter sent to the Irish Lighthouse Commissioners. Other records havindicated George Halpin Snr died as a result of an accident whilst inspecting one of the lighthouses in his Department.
Hullo from Perth Western Australia!
George Halpin senior was my x2great grandfather and I noticed Frank Pelly had written a very good short historical summary of George’s career in 2006.
George’s grandson came to Australia in the 1880s. Very little history of the family or records seems to be available. I’ve one or two photos of grandson also a George Halpin. (George’s eldest daughter Mary Halpin married Alfred Mettam)
As a small boy I was told of George Halpin Snr and George Jnr, and also of a Halpin family link to the ship the Great Eastern. I.e. that a member of the family was the Captain and other family members served on the ship laying the transatlantic cable.
Captain Robert Halpin was the commander of the Great Eastern and I have managed to obtain a copy of the book on his life.
Capt Robert was also involved in harbor and marine structures I think at Wicklow.
I suspect he was a cousin or nephew of George Halpin senior and am endeavoring to find out as much as possible about these early Halpins and whether anyone can confirm a link between the two famous Halpins.
They were certainly high achievers and I’m very proud of their competence and contribution.
I wondered if you might have some archive material on George Halpin senior and his family. I would also welcome any suggestions, or persons you would recommend I contact.
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photos of George Halpin snr grave Mt Jerome Cemetry Dublin
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Hi Cara,
Bestall and Johne don't appear with a Halpin in the same parish, nor do they appear in the Valuation, but Halpin / Holohan, Halpin / Kennedy, Halpin / Saunders and Halpin / Wheatley households are recorded in the same parish in the Primary Valuation property survey of 1848-64.. One of the counties in which four of the surnames on your list appeared was Wicklow.
Christopher
Christopher it would have helped if Ihad of typed in the correct name JONES not Johne now you should have known what I was trying to type .....fingers get a little busy and miss keys and all that I apologise for this
This is a dedication within the Church of Holy Trinity Castlemacadam Co Wicklow Ireland 179 - Transcribed Cara-Links taken from my own book Erected by ROBERT C HALPIN F.R.O.S. The Officers and Crew of the Steamship "Great Eastern" In affectionate Remembrance of their much Regretted Brother Officer Robert Jones L.R.C.S.I. Assistant Surgeon of that ship on the Submarine Telegraph Expedition When England was Brought Into Direct Communication With India, China, and Australia Who died February 10th 1876 Aged 25 Years.
I leave this here for you Christopher as I see you are an avid reader of this link and site. Regards Cara
Hi i have just found out that i have Halpin's that come from Wicklow,how would i go about finding him there.
thanks nina
Hello Nina, When did your Halpin ancestors live in Wicklow? There was a photograph in the Mourne Observer, "Man About Town" page, at the end of April last year , of Herbert Halpin's Entertainers at Newcastle, Co. Down, Ireland during the summer season 1909. There were twelve of them including one lady. Christopher Hi Christopher, Halpin family married into these families:_ 1- Bestall 2-Wheatly/Wheatley 3- Saunders 4-Johne 5- Wholohan 6-Kennedy See a connection then cotact me I do have more on them Cheers Cara
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BillW
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My attention has been brought to this discussion by Cara, so my thanks to her.
Kim Mettem in Perth, we are cousins and I would like you to get in touch. If you google "julia villiers", you should be able to find a thread at another forum that includes my address.
I have never heard any reference (other than speculation) to our George Halpins being connected to Captain Robert Halpin or to a Nicholas or John Halpin, or to Wicklow but I am always willing to learn. I would be most interested to learn more of Raymond's information and sources on this if he would care to do so. George Halpin senior, born circa 1779, wife Elizabeth, is as far back as I have been able to go. If, as Raymond suggests, George was secretive about his relations, that may explain why.
It may also explain why, if these were his family, there is absolutely no history of their names John, Nicholas, Robert, Edmund, etc in the descendants of George Halpin.
But George does appear to have had a son named Oswald and I would like to know where that relates to - possibly his wife's family.
Bill Webster Sydney
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I would like to respond to Raymand C Halpin's post of 24 March partly about the divided families of Nicholas and John Halpin.
After some news about Nicholas's descendants, Raymond, you come I presume to John's and state:
"George Halpin, civil engineer and son of John, actually raised by aunts and uncles and who was secretive about his origins on account of the damage they might do to his prospects..."
If you are referring to George Halpin (Senior) who became Inspector of Works and Inspector of Lighthouses in Dublin, born c. 1779, died 1854, this is my ancestor.
I would be most grateful if you could give us how you know his father was John, and the other marvellous details above, who were his aunts and uncles and who were their parents.
I am sorry if somehow I have missed this in the extensive material that you have already given.
As George and his family essentially became Dubliners and the details may not concern the Wicklow list or if for any other reason you may wish to send me family news, you may pick up my email address from another source by googling "julia villiers".
Thanks and best wishes
Bill Webster Sydney
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Thankyou, Bill, for inviting me to return to a subject I left 'hanging in the air', as it were. And my apologies to you and the other readers of this site for what must have been a frustrating wait. Like a lot of people in Ireland at the moment (and elsewhere of course) I've just been laid off. It didn't come as a total shock, but when it did come it left me gutted, naturally, with a lot to do and, for reasons that I hope are obvious, getting back to everybody here was not an immediate priority. If I'm reading you right you'd like me to be a little less 'breathless' with the anecdotes and much more substantive. That's a fair request and it was remiss of me not to be clearer about exactly what I've been able to establish as fact amid all the family lore. The strongest factual line I've been able to establish leads from my immediate family back in time through the Wicklow Halpins and, from there, through Dr Stopford Halpin to Dr Charles Halpin, of Cavan town, who passed away in 1859. This line came down to me through family stories that I've been able to substantiate to my own satisfaction, by virtue of obituaries and death notices published in various contemporary newspapers, and by a maddening trawl through the online newspaper archives at our National Library here in Dublin. I was able to corroborate that part of the family lore that dealt with the relationship between Stopford and Charles when I located a Medical Registry in the Royal College of Surgeon's library in Kildare St., Dublin, which listed the two as working from the same surgery in Cavan in the 1840s. From there I moved through links I was able to make with the aid of sources at the Royal Academy of Science (?) in Dawson street, which contains on file a reference to a facinating letter to academy members from Charles about a recent discovery made by "my brother, the Rev Nicholas John Halpin" - he was referring to a substantial stone carving depicting a pagan god which the Rev NJ had found while riding through the Cavan countryside. I won't go any further into the history of my research into this branch of the Halpin family tree, because I intend to lay it all out here for everyone's benefit over the coming months. I just want to stress the exact route I take in my research - it isn't from fact to lore, but from lore to fact. That is, I take the stories I was told about the Halpins and try to flesh them out as best I can with the aid of what I discover in the archives. It's a slow process and it's an approach I think everyone interested in this subject has to take at some point. This is elementary stuff so far and I'm sure you have no qualms with it. However, what I failed to do, and what I should have been clear about, is exactly what I've been able to substantiate about the Halpin story and what remains to be 'proven' by me. That was a mistake I want to apologise for, and I'll try here as best I can to clear up some of the confusion I inadvertently created. Firstly. here are the html website addresses of two excellent sources of information on George Halpin and extended family – http://www.cil.ie/sh832x4997.html and http://www.turtlebunbury.com/published/published_books/docklands/heroes/pub_books_docklands_halpin.html I hope both prove useful to you.
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2. As for your question about Oswald - I can tell you that he certainly was a direct descendant of George - as far as I can recall, Oswald studied medicine at Trinity, then volunteered to serve in WW1 soon after graduating. I'm afraid he was killed in action before war's end, precisely where and when escapes me just now. I'll find out and get the facts to you asap. I think he was raised in a place called ‘The Laurals’ in Foxrock, Co. Dublin. His father was also an MD. When I have more information I’ll post it here. The connections I’m attempting to establish between George and the Halpin lineage outlined above, stem from discoveries I’ve managed to unearth in my research, some of which I lay here, meagre though they are. I’m fairly confident that I’ve identified Robert Wellington Halpin’s father as one Robert Halpin, tide-surveyor, working for Dublin “Customs” prior to 1850. In the “Return to House of Commons, List of all persons receiving salaries, pensions, allowances, emoluments, etc...”(1849 – see House of Commons website), he is listed as receiving “£120...diff. of salary as formerly dock-master, plus £142 15 8. Total annual salary £262 15 8.” Now, this doesn’t bear directly on George just yet, except insofar as both men are in the same vicinity at the same time – the Dublin docklands. It was through men like Robert, the tide-surveyor, that James Halpin, Wicklow Innkeeper, ‘placed’ his son Robert Charles Halpin. I believe James and Robert were brothers, but I have yet to confirm this. Robert Charles Halpin became the Captain everyone is now familiar with, and he got my greatgrandfather, Edwin, a placement in telegraphy. In the same House of Commons list a certain N.S. Halpin, Landing-Waiter, Dublin “Customs”, is recorded as receiving an annual salary of £250. I include his name only because it may turn up again in subsequent research. The Reverend Nicholas John Halpin’s eldest son, also named Nicholas John, worked in customs too. Note: Death Of Nicholas John Halpin – The death of Nicholas John Halpin, who was for many years connected with her Majesty’s Customs, Dublin, will be received with regret. He was greatly esteemed as an able and courteous official by all with whom he was brought in contact. He was the eldest son of the late Rev. N J Halpin, for many years editor of the Dublin Evening Mail, and brother of the late Charles Graham Halpin (Miles O’Reilly), whose life and works were lately reviewed in a leading Dublin paper [I think they refer here to the collected works, which were edited in the US by “Roosevelt” – yeah, I’m wondering too]. In his private life Mr Halpin made hosts of friends, all of whom will deeply regret his decease. – The Belfast-Newsletter, Monday, November 30, 1891. I have some other newspaper citations (in the Times, about 1846 I think) putting one of the Rev NJ Halpin’s sons at work in Custom House, a fact I refer to below, as well as a score of detailed reference material on George’s working relationship with Custom House Dublin, all available through the House of Commons search engine, which I think you should be able to access through the NSW State Library.
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3. As I said above, I move from lore to fact. So far, I've made excellent progress with the link from myself through Wicklow to Cavan, Meath and Portarlington, Co. Laois. I'm making satisfactory progress from the stories I was told about Gen. William G Halpin to something more substantial - I'll throw all of that stuff onto this site as well in the coming months. But what I'm struggling most with is the link from us, here in Dublin, to George snr, builder, architect (I recently came across references to one of his buildings, which I'll dig up and post. By the way, the retaining wall around Custom House began to subside at some point in the 1840s. Only quick action by George prevented Customs from sliding into the Liffey – I’ll track down the newspaper story and get it to you) and Lighthouse engineer. The lore is as follows - I grew up in North Dublin, in a working class estate not far from Dollymount (or Bull Island), which sits in Dublin bay just south of Howth Head and North of the mouth of the river Liffey. Whenever we passed that low, sandy island my father would tell us that it had been created only recently, after the construction of the North Bull wall, which was "built by your great uncle George". Further on, a little south of Bull Wall and adjacent to the strand wall near Castle Ave., sat what is now a disused public baths. Passing there our father would say "You're Opah used to swim in there. He was a great swimmer. We lost count of the people he said he saved from drowning. Them baths were built by your Great uncle George as well. They used to be called 'Halpin's pool"."...Now, as a kid I was happy to regard that kind of stuff as gospel. When, at a much later date, I tried to have the stories confirmed, I met with mixed but tantalising results. George did indeed supervise the positioning of the North Wall, which was designed to prevent shifting silt from making the Liffey difficult to navigate for vessels attempting to deliver cargo to the city (a task Captain Bligh had been charged with around the turn of the 1800s). And I found out that there had indeed been something called "Halpin's Pool", but it certainly did not refer to the baths my father used to point out to us as children, but to the pool of relatively calm water created by the construction of the North Wall, in the midst of which sit the ruins of the public baths. Now, while these are reasonably close confirmations of what were indeed historical facts, they are by no means proof of a family link. They only prove that my predecessors were reasonably well-informed geographers who happened, in all honesty, to think there was a link. The task of proving they were more than that, at least in regard to George, remains to be proven, and I will try to do that. Once again, Bill, I'm so very sorry I didn't say this first. Had I done so, it would not have caused you undue concern, I'm certain of that. The difference between fact and anecdote is absolute. But I am forced to approach this subject firstly from anecdote, and then – through archival research – to fact. As yet I haven’t quite reached a factual basis for some of the claims made by the anecdotes, but I have narrowed the gap a little. What had been in no way connected has become, through the archival material, a tangle of crossed paths and overlapping careers. The factual and the anecdotal have been brought closer together, which is one of the purposes of RootsChat. This encourages me to think that the anecdotes I’m in possession of are in part based on actual connections, which in itself helps to maintain the morale needed to grind away inordinate amounts of time in the archives following every conceivable link, no matter how tenuous. Fruitful lines of enquiry are hard to come by, but I believe I’ve found a few. What can we say at this point? With modest assurance I believe we can say that a few members of both families were in close proximity – doing some of the same things at the same time in the same place for the same people. Paths almost certainly crossed at Custom House, Dublin; George snr, jnr and Nicholas J Halpin no doubt met and spoke and were almost certainly asked by colleagues if they were related. By virtue of these reasonably safe assumptions the families are closer now than they had been – in each other’s way, even in each other’s thoughts, though not quite eating off each other’s plates. Do NJ Halpin and the George's snr and jnr form separate branches of the same family tree? The anecdotes indicate that they do, but the facts can’t yet concur, although, like I’ve said, things are just that little bit clearer now.
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4. As for the link from George to John, that is speculative on my part (god forgive me), based on an inference I've drawn from what the lore had to say about how the Halpins split apart over the political upheavals in and around the years between the French Revolution and the Napoleonic wars. I've placed George next to John as a son, because that was roundabout where the family story-tellers placed him, and because if the connection to the Halpin's I've named above does in fact exist, I can't figure out where else he could possibly emerge from, if not from John - for me, George exists as a bit of a blurr at the moment, amid the lore and a hazy plethora of possibly relevant historical facts that may, at this early stage, outline the kinds of ‘connections’ that families often utilised at that time to get ahead in the world, connections I will work hard to verify. Does the picture seem a little clearer now? Christ, I think I've even confused myself. But Rootschat, while being a venue to pass on the facts, must surely be a place to exchange lore too, in the hope that something from someone might clarify a point and allow further research to establish a link beyond doubt. Someone on rootschat - I've forgotten who - has said that they too heard tell of close family links between George snr and Capt. Robert Charles Halpin. I had not heard of that connection myself, but I wonder if the story is the same one my great grandfather - Edwin – passed down through the family to me? The story, as I've said above, simply starts the process of discovery and guides the research through the archives. Incidently, before I sign off, let me tell everyone that after all the years sweating in the various archives, I just happened to be in the Dublin City University last month, assisting a disabled student with his research (it was how I used to make a living), when I stumbled across a two volume Burke's Peerage registry of the landed gentry of Ireland (1952, I think). There, under "HALPIN OF FORD LODGE", was a beautifully detailed family tree stretching from John Ralph Halpin of Ford Lodge, Co Cavan, "admitted a solicitor 1922, Vice President of The Incorporated Law Soc. of Ireland 1953-54, served in World War 1 as 2nd Lieut. Royal Irish Fus.; b. 14 Aug. 1899, educ. Rugby, and Trin. Coll. Dublin (B.A., LL.B.)," all the way back to the relatives I had spent so much time trying to trace an exact lineage to - to Nicholas Halpin, Headmaster of Portarlington School...which only goes to prove how much easier this task would be if I had any talent as a plotter of family trees. I will do four things over the next week or so – I’ll track down the exact dates of birth of Bridget, William, James and Cecil, and post them here. I will show the links, by marriage, between Charles G Halpine (actual name Charles Boyton Halpin), Margaret Grace Milligan and her father, William Milligan esq, MD, and the foundation of a hospital in Perth(?); I will post all I’ve found of CG Halpine’s obituaries and some invaluable newspaper adverts listing the business transformations undergone by the distillers James Halpin, William Halpin and a chap called Hannen, including an extract from a spy’s letter damning one of them as a particularly rabid republican, all dated just prior to the Rising in the late 1790s. For the time being, all the best. And remember, I will do my best to post far more by way of specific reference material in future. Regards, Ray Halpin,(*)
PS I tried to post this to your email address last night, following the links you suggested, without luck - it was returned to me with an error message.
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