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raymondcecilmark
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Hi Kenneth - I think I'll be able to shed some light on the matter - I may not be able to resolve the issue once and for all (that would require more documentation than I've been able to uncover), but I think I come close to a good circumstantial case for regarding all the Johns, Pagets and Patricks here as - at the very least - blood relations. I've been keeping Bill up to date with the progress I'm making. Each time I'm ready to post, I stumble across something else in some obscure history book or little-considered online document, which causes me to hesitate. Other matters will have me tied up for the next few days, but I should have something to post by Wednesday or Thursday next week - and I believe it will interest you, Dianne, Leah, Kim and Bill in particular...basically, it all hinges on Queen's County, Portarlington, and the terrible events surrounding the insurrection of 1798-99. Now that I've flagged it, I hope it's not an anti-climax. Until next week - Cheers.
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kenneth cooke
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I wonder who John Halpen of Woodville, in about 1800, was. Does anybody know ?
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BillW
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I have the marriage of Marianne Crosthwaite to William Henry Halpin as JAN 1787. Can anyone prompt me as to how I got that please?
From the records of the Eustace Street Presbyterian, Dublin, Dublin, Ireland, Anne Crosthwait birth 21 JUL 1746 to Thomas Crossthwait and Mary. There are many Crosthwait bdms recorded at this church. [Source IGI]
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dcarr
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Hi Bill,
The write up for the Halpin family in Burke's "The Landed Gentry of Ireland" has William Henry Halpin of Portarlington m. Jan. 1787, Marianne Crosthwaite.
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BillW
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Hi again diane
The author of this write up must have got this information from somewhere. I wonder if anyone knows: is the author of the Burke's article identifiable, contactable?
It would be good to find such a source.
Bill.
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dcarr
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Hi,
I not sure who writes up the family pedigrees for Burkes, I would imagine the information would be submitted by the individual they are featuring. In this case it was John Ralph Halpin of Ford Lodge, Cavan.
He was born in 1899 so I don't imagine he is still alive.
Diane
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BillW
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Re Marianne Crosthwaite who married William Henry Halpin of Portarlington - and the possible Carlow connection?
From an 1890s recording of Co Carlow Memorial Inscriptions, there are the following:
Crosthwait, Samuel Esq, 31 August 1839
Crosthwait, Samuel Esq, 22 August 1863 aged 74
Crosthwait, Elizabeth, 4 February 1854
Crosthwait, Samuel (no date)
All the above were recorded in Dunleckney Parish, which I believe is around Bagenalstown, south of Carlow town.
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RichG
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Hello to all Irish Halpins!
Enquiry into HALPIN-GREVILLE Connection
Can anyone help me, please? I am looking for the HALPIN family in Co. Dublin around the 18th/19th century and in particular in connection to Kilmainham Estate. I understand that an antecedent of mine, John GREVILLE married Hannah HALPIN on 27 Dec 1740. Since then the GREVILLE family has taken on the HALPIN name before the GREVILLE (see Lorne HALPIN GREVILLE who has been researching the GREVILLE family tree in Australia while my great uncle (?), Sydney HALPIN GREVILLE was doing the same in the UK and Ireland).
My father, Howard GREVILLE, was the first to have lost the HALPIN but I have added it to my son’s name, ------------------.
Richard
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J.M. Flannery
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Hi Richard,
At the present time I cannot help you, but will try to make some enqueries, good hunting.
Regards Julia
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Doyle, Malone, Ryan, Wicklow. Murray of Arklow.
(O)Carroll of Annamoe, & Cornagower, Brittas, Wicklow, & Co Carlow. Waters, Haughton, Leviston, Goggin. Kavanagh Wicklow. Lavender and Newman of Ballyhad, Rathdrum.
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BillW
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Richard, it could help those willing to assist if you could supply more information.
Where was/is the Kilmainham Estate and who owned it? How is the Halpin/Greville marriage date known? Any more details? Are you able to refer us to the research material of Lorne Halpin Greville or Sydney Halpin Greville so we can compare what we know with what they have?
Richard, I have been researching and casting about for Halpin information for many years and this is the first time I have seen mention of the name Greville. Naturally I am intrigued. Halpin was not such an uncommon name although I think those who were not Catholic were a minority of them.
Bill.
Hello to all Irish Halpins!
Enquiry into HALPIN-GREVILLE Connection
Can anyone help me, please? I am looking for the HALPIN family in Co. Dublin around the 18th/19th century and in particular in connection to Kilmainham Estate. I understand that an antecedent of mine, John GREVILLE married Hannah HALPIN on 27 Dec 1740. Since then the GREVILLE family has taken on the HALPIN name before the GREVILLE (see Lorne HALPIN GREVILLE who has been researching the GREVILLE family tree in Australia while my great uncle (?), Sydney HALPIN GREVILLE was doing the same in the UK and Ireland).
My father, Howard GREVILLE, was the first to have lost the HALPIN but I have added it to my son’s name, ------------------.
Richard
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RichG
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Bill, Julia,
Many thanks for your replies. Unfortunately my copy of the family (GREVILLE) history is with my parents but I should get hold of it fairly soon. However, what I can say is that Sydney has researched the family tree right back to 1401 which is quite impressive! He had quite a lot of trouble finding information out about the Halpins in Ireland due the equivalent of Somerset House, let's say, suffering a mishap and records being destroyed! However, as I recall, Kilmainham Estate was in Dublin and I do not think it has anything to do with the gaol.
Sydney suspected that there was a branch of the Halpin Greville family in Australia and asked my sister, Monica, to have a look through the Sydney (Australia) phone book for Greville's! Lorne was one of the few Greville's that were listed By extreme coincidence, he had also been researching the family tree so the two started to communicate (by post as the web and e-mails were not around in those days!) Lo and behold, the two parts of the tree dovetailed perfectly!
Lorne is active on GenForum and was the first site that came up when I Googled 'Lorne Halpin Greville'. I am sure he as well as I would be very interested to find out more about the Halpin connection as it has been in the Greville family for over 200 years. I will try to send him a message.
Richard
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iwonder_who
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Hello
I hope I am not out of line posting in here but I am looking for family of a Mary Anne Halpin born 1841 Ireland. Adare. Limerick. She married in 1861 in Lancashire Liverpool to an Augustine Achilles. He was born in Leinster Ireland.
From records I can see a possibility Mary Anne Halpin was the daughter of a James Halpin & Maria Mary Adams..... other siblings James Halpin 1839 & Elizabeth Halpin 1854. On the IGI site this family reference has a notation from contributor as being related to George Teskey if that is recognisable to anyone.
On a query I posted in general someone advised me to look here. Does anyone know if these are the same line of Halpins contained in this thread... Wicklow...... or if it is unrelated? Many thanks
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Davis, May, McAuliffe, Hanks, Jetson, Merrifield, Curtin, Collins, Achilles, Fenner, Hourigan, Crocker, Chapple, Mormon, Stephens, George, Richards
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raymondcecilmark
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The link between the Wicklow/Queens County/Dublin group of Halpins and the Halpins located in Limerick is very hard to establish, since reliable records are almost impossible to locate. My own gut feeling is that the link is non-existent, since most of the Limerick Halpins were Catholic, whereas virtually all of the Halpins mentioned on this site are - or were - Protestant. There are, however, extensive references to the Limerick Halpins in the National Library newspaper archives, which are accessible through most inter-library web services (I think). As for the research specific to the Halpins mentioned above - I hope to resume posting details shortly, after a bout of ill health and a few weeks work in rural Wexford - much needed, I can tell you. Cheers.
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raymondcecilmark
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Any idea when Sarah Anne or Patrick were born, or their approximate ages when they died? The date of their deaths would help, and their religion.
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