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Topic: Jenkins,Dwyer,Salmon from Bray (Read 1597 times)
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duffysalmon
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Hi,
Yes, John (Jack) Salmon is my great grandfather. He married Nellie Rundle Jane, in Calstock, Cornwall, two years previously his brother, Christopher Patrick, married another local girl there. My granddad was Cornelius Salmon, married Annie Brogan, My dad, John (Jack) was their first born.
I recently tripped over this info;
Sent From Rathdown Union Workhouse County Wicklow To North America 1850. (this was basically a clear out of the work house).
7)John Salmon Aged 16 From Bray Co Wicklow (so would have been born about 1834.),
Salmon is not such a common name in Wicklow, so one can assume this young lad an ancestor.
I have not accessed 1911 census yet, so your question answered one of mine, My granddads birth was registered in Tavistock, so he was probably born in Calstock, but I did not know when Jack and Nellie returned to Bray, so thank you for that!.
Hope my bits of info are helpful to you.
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JONESFR
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Christopher Patrick Salmon from Bray is listed on the Calstock Cornwall 1901 census together with his family however in 1911 his family are in Stockton Durham. Did he stay there or return to Bray.
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duffysalmon
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Hi JonesFR,
Are you descended from Christopher Patrick?.
I am sure you know all this but, The Salmons boys were sailors/seamen, and at some point owned their own craft, apparently large enough to cross the Atlantic, which John did., did Christopher?.
I assumed that both Christopher Patrick and his brother John were on the same boat/ship working the Tamar, At that time Calstock was an important little port, and where both met and married local girls, Christopher's wife was a miss Mutton, I think her dad was a sailor also. If Christopher moved north east then the only choices are; That he and his brother moved on the same boat, or that Christopher needed to go N.E. for work perhaps John returned with his family to Bray at that point, Was Durham his wife's home?. I would be surprised if either worked as anything but a sailor, however needs must.
Did Christopher return to Bray?, I do not know at this point, has my interest lay in my g/granddad John, My dad said that one of Johns brothers moved to America and may have started a business?, but I do not know which one, nor do I have documented evidence of that.
Calstock parish records are on line and free, BDM/Census, though you will find that information, it is only basic.
Johns home, in Bray, was Rose cottage, the Strand,facing the boathouse. I do not know if this was his parents home, but it is where he reared his children, and lived out his life as a seaman/sailor, At one point he and his brother/s?, ran a pleasure craft of some sort, taking tourists round the bay, was one of these brothers Christopher?. It would be helpful to find/access maritime records of those times to place these boys.
I do not have a great deal of info yet, I have been relying on free searches so far, and at some point will join ancestor.com, but because most of the people I will be researching are Irish the cost will be huge!, probably cheaper to catch a ferry across!.
what I shall do is contact relatives in Bray, and ask if they know of Christopher, these folk are descendants of Johns daughter, and only one will be old enough to help, if at all they can, they may be able to tell of other branches of the family.
Liz
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duffysalmon
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Hi,
Glad you told me that before I handed over a big chunk, I would not have been happy to find few records, and given one branch were horse traders, then I need all the help I can get!, thanks for that info. Can you tell me which family research one is best for Irish record please?.
Thanks
Liz
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aghadowey
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Sources vary according to dates and place but lots of links under Ireland Resources board and each county board also has resources for their own area.
1911 census (and eventually also 1901) online now as well as index to civil registrations but these may be too recent for some of your research.
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JONESFR
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Hi duffysalmon
I have carried out research for a very close friend of mine who is a descendant of Agnes Salmon sister of Cornelious and daughter of John Salmon. I will arrange for him to join the site and he will be in contact over the next few days.
Regards
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duffysalmon
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Hi JonesFR,
Great!, look forward to your friend coming on, I may be able to source a couple of old photos of granddads sisters, thats not a promise, will have to check.
Best wishes
Liz
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duffysalmon
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Hi aghadowey,
So it will not be all under one roof then.. tut, suppose I shouldn't whine, it was all done on shanks`s pony years ago!.
Thanks again aghadowey
Liz
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