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Topic: A mystery first marriage: 1830s-1850s (Read 770 times)
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AndrewMartin
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Hi Sue,
Thanks again for your help. The pieces of this new jumbled jigsaw are all beginning to fall in to place.
At this rate, by Christmas, i'll have discovered a whole 'new me'. 
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Andrew Martin Cambridge, England. www.familytreeuk.co.ukResearching: BABBIDGE, BAILEY, BARBER, BARKER, BISHOP, BOULTER, BOWERS, BURNELL, COOPER, CROSS, DEWEY, DEWSBURY, FREEMAN, GAWTHROP, GIDDINGS, GIGNER, GILBERT, GILLIONS, GOLTRIP, GOTHARD, HAWKINS, JEFFERY, LEVITT, MARTIN, MODEN, NEWMAN, NEWELL, TAYLOR, TINGEY, WATERS, WHITEHEAD, YARROW. |
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AndrewMartin
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Avis' age of 35 is obviously wrong in 1841 for even if she were 39 she would still be too young to be married and having a child in 1813. In fact in 1851 Aves Wisbe was 58 born Downham which looks much more realistic.
Looking at the Burial Index there's a Robert Martin aged 41 buried at Downham in 1826 which might well be Avis' first husband and father of Robert, and probably James too. If this is the right Robert then Avis would have remarried James Wisby earlier than I'd assumed and in fact the Henry Wisby(e) who appears in 1841/51 born 1830 is on the IGI as the son of James and Avis. I can't see a marriage of James Wisby and Avis Martin between 1826 and 1830 though.
Well, I've now received the marriage certificate for James Martin and Mary Ann Moxon. Unhelpfully, they are both 'full age' but it does tell me that they were of Robert Martin and John Moxon respectfully. However, it does not tell me that Robert Martin was deceased - an oversight? perhaps.
The witnesses were William Moxon and Eliza Webb. I've looked at the Moxons on the 1841 Little Downham census, which comes with the 20yr old James Martin too.. and William is, as expected, the brother and Eliza Webb lives next door on Main Street.
Flicking back through my research notes, i have records of baptisms of a Robert and Avis Martin up until 1824, when it's Robert Martin (the second's) turn. After that, Avis Martin vanishes... and a Robert Martin, like you said, turns up in the burials at Lt Downham in 1826.
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Andrew Martin Cambridge, England. www.familytreeuk.co.ukResearching: BABBIDGE, BAILEY, BARBER, BARKER, BISHOP, BOULTER, BOWERS, BURNELL, COOPER, CROSS, DEWEY, DEWSBURY, FREEMAN, GAWTHROP, GIDDINGS, GIGNER, GILBERT, GILLIONS, GOLTRIP, GOTHARD, HAWKINS, JEFFERY, LEVITT, MARTIN, MODEN, NEWMAN, NEWELL, TAYLOR, TINGEY, WATERS, WHITEHEAD, YARROW. |
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It often happens that it's not mentioned that a father is deceased. The officiating person merely asked for father's name, but not if he was still alive, and the about to be newlywed didn't volunteer the information
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBeds: Cople: Luke/Spencer Everton: Hale Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey Potton: Merrill Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt Hunts: Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn Cambs: Bourn: Bowd Eltisley: Medlock Graveley: Ford/Revell |
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It often happens that it's not mentioned that a father is deceased. The officiating person merely asked for father's name, but not if he was still alive, and the about to be newlywed didn't volunteer the information
David
well, Robert being deceased would explain why i cant find any eligible Robert Martin candidates in the area and it would go towards explaining why there is an Avis Wisby.... but... this does leave me with the James Martin living with the Moxons on Downham Main Street in 1841... AND living with James and Avis Wisby and Robert Martin Jnr elsewhere.
Did he appear twice or might it be two different Roberts? I'm not sure how to work that one out.
I know i need to go backwards with my Downham baptism notes as i've only got as far back as 1813 in my notes and my James Martin does not appear... yet his siblings do.
Once the records office re-opens, i'll have loads to research 
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Andrew Martin Cambridge, England. www.familytreeuk.co.ukResearching: BABBIDGE, BAILEY, BARBER, BARKER, BISHOP, BOULTER, BOWERS, BURNELL, COOPER, CROSS, DEWEY, DEWSBURY, FREEMAN, GAWTHROP, GIDDINGS, GIGNER, GILBERT, GILLIONS, GOLTRIP, GOTHARD, HAWKINS, JEFFERY, LEVITT, MARTIN, MODEN, NEWMAN, NEWELL, TAYLOR, TINGEY, WATERS, WHITEHEAD, YARROW. |
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