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Rev Owen Lewis of Talsarn, Llanddeusant
« on: Thursday 29 November 07 22:37 UTC (UK) »

I am looking for the burial place of Rev Owen Lewis, the calvinist methodist minister of Talsarn chapel in Llanddeusant. He died in 1870.

Can anyone help? I don't know the area but I would have thought he'd have been buried in Llanddeusant if there wasn't a graveyard at his chapel.
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Re: Rev Owen Lewis of Talsarn, Llanddeusant
« Reply #1 on: Friday 30 November 07 08:52 UTC (UK) »

Looks like hes buried in Llanddeusant Parish Church
Owen Lewis Penrhw Ucha Buried 24/02/1870 age 82 in Llandduesant
Also a son Thomas Lewis son of Owen ,Abode-Penyrhew 12/04/1828 Age 3 months

Owen seems to have been married at least twice first  marriage
Owen Lewis to Margaret Davies in Llandduesant on 08/12/1813 and second marriage to Margaret Thomas .

Have you got the childrens baptisms ?This is where i had mothers names from.Let me know if you havent and ill post them up

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Re: Rev Owen Lewis of Talsarn, Llanddeusant
« Reply #2 on: Friday 30 November 07 12:19 UTC (UK) »

Thanks very much for this. What is your source for the burial record?

I have the baptisms of his children and noticed there were two different surnames for the mothers but having studied the order of births I wonder if it is the same woman as in 1816 she is listed as David, then in 1819 it is Thomas, in 1821 it is David again, in 1823 it is Davis, and in 1826, 1828, 1829 and 1831 it is Thomas. Perhaps she was a widow when she married Owen? I have ordered the films via the LDS so will check it out.

Was his wife buried with him?  And do you know what Ucha means? His house or farm was called Penyrhiw.

I don't have his marriage, thanks for this. Does it give any more detail?

Thank you

Ramani7
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Re: Rev Owen Lewis of Talsarn, Llanddeusant
« Reply #3 on: Friday 30 November 07 15:53 UTC (UK) »

Carmarthenshire Burial Index

Yes noticed that with the children very strange i can see it being a misspelling between Davies and David as this happens a lot the Thomas is stranger and yes see what you mean if the first lot were Davies then Thomas it would make sense.But it seems to interchange.

The only other details youll get from the marriage this early is the witnesses.I havent got those details

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Re: Rev Owen Lewis of Talsarn, Llanddeusant
« Reply #4 on: Friday 30 November 07 15:58 UTC (UK) »

Forgot the other part if i remember correctly Ucha is from Uchaf which generally means Upper or Higher /Highest.
Have emailed someone on Owen Lewis baptism will get back to you if i find anything.

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Re: Rev Owen Lewis of Talsarn, Llanddeusant
« Reply #5 on: Friday 30 November 07 22:33 UTC (UK) »

Thank you welsh lady, much appreciated.
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Re: Rev Owen Lewis of Talsarn, Llanddeusant
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 02 December 07 14:28 UTC (UK) »

Had a reply off a very kind lady who does look ups and this is what she found.Remember the Patronymic(think ive spelt it right) naming pattern was relevant then
Owen son of David Lewis Howel on 11th Nov 1788.Someone else has apparently also researched this line and they have come to the same conclusion this is the right Owen Lewis.I will see if i can get contact details for you and put you in touch

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Re: Rev Owen Lewis of Talsarn, Llanddeusant
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 02 December 07 20:37 UTC (UK) »

Hi Welsh Lady

Thanks very much for all your trouble. Is this date his birth or christening date? I assume it was in Llanddeusant.  Going to look up the Patronymic naming pattern now, I think I have seen some links to it somewhere.

Ramani

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Re: Rev Owen Lewis of Talsarn, Llanddeusant
« Reply #8 on: Monday 03 December 07 10:15 UTC (UK) »

This is his christening in Llandduesant.If you send me a PM with your email address  i will forward it to the lady who did the look up see if she will pass it on to the lady who is also researching this line.

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Amor/Amer-Bromham Wiltshire,Hertfordshire,Suffolk.
Pyett-Suffolk
Wolfenden-Cambridgeshire,Huntingdonshire
Bird,Nash-Essex.
Anderson,-London.Bethnal Green,Shoreditch,Hackney
King-,Uxbridge,Shoreditch,Bethnal Green
Edwards,Roberts,Lane,Price,Williams-Llanelli.
Roberts-Pembroke Dock
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Re: Rev Owen Lewis of Talsarn, Llanddeusant
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 04 December 07 10:00 UTC (UK) »

Thanks very much.
Ramani

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Re: Rev Owen Lewis of Talsarn, Llanddeusant
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 21 October 08 11:17 UTC (UK) »

I read the details about the Rev. Owen Lewis with a lot of interest since I am a direct descendant of his. Just out of curiosity, are any of the other contributors to this 'thread' family members?
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Re: Rev Owen Lewis of Talsarn, Llanddeusant
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 30 August 09 11:17 UTC (UK) »

Hello, I just read this thread and I was wondering if anyone knows where Llanddeusant parish church is? I have a lot of ancestors from that area and I believe they were also buried there.  Welsh Lady if I gave you some names could you ask your contact to have a look at the burial records for me? Undecided  hope im not being too rude in asking....

Kind regards
Duke Smiley
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Charles 1746 - LLanddeusant/Merthyr tydfil/Port Talbot
Brown 1836 - Cardiff
Campbell 1841 - Liverpool/Port Talbot
Davey 1787 - Devon/Neath
Morgan 1819 - Llangynwyd/Port Talbot
Pontin 1693 -  Wiltshire/Methyr Tydfil
Berridge 1674 - Northampton/Cardiff
Clement 1789 - Devon/south wales
Bishop 1792 - Shropshire/Cardiff
McNally/McNelly/McAnally/McNalley 1845 - Ireland/Cumberland/Brecon

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